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tantek.com edited /static_site_CMS (+211) "expand dfn, use simpler more direct language" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /content_management_system (+89) "move nopress link here from the static site CMS page" (view diff)
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gRegor That table links to /Netlify_CMS, which has examples
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gRegor table needs work, though. dead software/domains in it
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gRegor man, so many similar terms around this, haha
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loqi.me edited /one-click-install (+30) "[tantek] added "[[easier]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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gRegor what is headless CMS
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Loqi headless CMS is a content management system that only handles the backend parts of a traditional CMS (storage, editing interface, APIs, ...), with the visitor-facing side handled by a different system https://indieweb.org/headless_CMS
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gRegor Netlify CMS is there too :shrug: no idea
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gRegor what is netlify CMS
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Loqi Netlify CMS is a content management frontend for static sites stored in GitHub, GitLab or BitBucket repos, made by Netlify https://indieweb.org/Netlify_CMS
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gregorlove.com edited /static_site_CMS (+30) "/* List of known static site CMSes */ mv Netlify up since it actually has examples, move dead/unmaintained software to previous examples" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Kirby (+7) "https some links, fix some chat log links" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Joomla (+185) "https link, citation+archive for Astrid's post" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /static_site_CMS (+29) "add Kirby, see each CMS for IndieWeb Examples" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2023-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (-20) "copy edit WP plugin text a bit to make them shorter (one fewer line in some cases)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2023-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+123) "and one more late found gift, blog post about site post authoring, adding No LLMs used" (view diff)
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[tantek] thanks to [pfefferle] adding his three plugin updates, I felt I could add one more blog post too which was technically about how to improve your own posts / site. and updated my post about the Gift Calendar also with new totals
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[tantek] and it made me add up the numbers again so fixed a few. now things should all total up properly
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[tantek] 71 total gifts in the IndieWeb Gift Calendar! (pretty sure that's a new record)
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[tantek] yes by far. closest was ~37 in 2018
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[tantek] 3.5 days until the Webmention Recommendation is 7 years old! https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/REC-webmention-20170112/
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2024-01-12 2:46pm UTC (#7088)
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[tantek] 14.5 days until the WebSub Recommendation is 6 years old! https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/REC-websub-20180123/
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2024-01-23 2:47pm UTC (#7089)
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www.ciccarello.me moved /Netlify_CMS to /Decap_CMS "Project was renamed"
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www.ciccarello.me edited /Decap_CMS (+280) "Update definition to new name with history" (view diff)
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[aciccarello] What is Decap CMS?
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Loqi Decap CMS is a git based content management frontend formerly known as Netlify CMS https://indieweb.org/Decap_CMS
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[aciccarello] Cool.
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www.ciccarello.me edited /Decap_CMS (+108) "add indieweb example" (view diff)
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www.ciccarello.me edited /Decap_CMS (+55) "Mark some See also links for cleanup" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+450) "stub September, October, November, December" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /one-click-install (-17) "collapse See Also sections" (view diff)
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sarajaksa.eu edited /writing (+128) "Adding James recent post to the list" (view diff)
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sarajaksa.eu edited /indieweb-carnival (-51) "Removing myself from the list, as I will probably not be able to do it" (view diff)
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[tantek] LLM << 2024-01-08 The Guardian UK: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/08/ai-tools-chatgpt-copyrighted-material-openai ‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says] <br/>So don't even think about using ChatGPT to contribute material to the wiki, because you don't have the ability to know you can contribute it to the public domain / CC0.
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Loqi ok, I added "2024-01-08 The Guardian UK: [https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/08/ai-tools-chatgpt-copyrighted-material-openai ‘Impossible’ to create AI tools like ChatGPT without copyrighted material, OpenAI says] <br/>So don't even think about using ChatGPT to contribute material to the wiki, because you don't have the ability to know you can contribute it to the public domain / CC0." to the "See Also" section of /large_language_model https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92109&oldid=91988
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[tantek] ^ capjamesg, thought you might find that of interest
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c​apjamesg It is interesting.
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loqi.me created /Vercel (+85) "prompted by [snarfed] and dfn added by [snarfed]" (view diff)
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c​apjamesg [tantek] I had not thought about that point.
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[tantek] which point in particular capjamesg?
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[tantek] (asking because if so, it may mean it's worth me writing a short post about that point!)
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c​apjamesg "because you don't have the ability to know you can contribute it to the public domain / CC0"
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c​apjamesg It is.
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c​apjamesg I was thinking it would make a good blog post.
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c​apjamesg I have heard a lot of commentary about AI. I have heard a variant of the argument you made with reference to code, but not text.
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[tantek] oooh yes please go ahead and post about it if you like! I'm not claiming any ownership over that point (happy to share my insights when reading articles like that)
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c​apjamesg I'm not sure what I have to say on the matter.
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c​apjamesg It was more that I'd like to read your thoughts!
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[tantek] ok!
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[tantek] tinbox << post about implications of https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/08/ai-tools-chatgpt-copyrighted-material-openai in particular, don't even think about using ChatGPT to contribute material to the IndieWeb wiki, Wikipedia, W3C or other standards specifications, because you don't have the ability to know you can contribute it to the public domain / CC0 / other CLAs.
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Loqi ok, I added "post about implications of https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/jan/08/ai-tools-chatgpt-copyrighted-material-openai in particular, don't even think about using ChatGPT to contribute material to the IndieWeb wiki, Wikipedia, W3C or other standards specifications, because you don't have the ability to know you can contribute it to the public domain / CC0 / other CLAs." to the "See Also" section of /User:Tantek.com/tinbox https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92111&oldid=91986
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c​apjamesg Maybe I should have an inbox...
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s​tarrwulfe can someone change my username from starrwulfe.xyz to just starrwulfe please? I can't properly site myself because periods aren't allowed in the namespace.
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c​apjamesg What is cinbox?
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jamesg.blog created /User:Jamesg.blog/inbox (+71) "Create inbox" (view diff)
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starrwulfe.xyz edited /Vercel (+1039) "expanded by Starrwulfe" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /ai.txt (+37) "prompted by gRegor and redirect added by gRegor" (view diff)
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gRegor starrwulfe, you mean your wiki User: page? That's based on the domain you sign in with
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s​tarrwulfe true. I just see some older usernames in here that are in the style of `{{username}}` and not `[[user:Domain.name]]` and wondering if that was a workaround
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aaronpk not sure what you mean by you can't cite yourself
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aaronpk where are periods not allowed?
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aaronpk only some very old usernames are not domain names, but those accounts can't be logged in to anymore
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aaronpk note that your wiki username is completely separate from your `{{username}}` sparkline template
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gRegor The sparkline is {{starrwulfe}},
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gRegor https://indieweb.org/Template:starrwulfe
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gRegor On /Craft.do you could try updating your example, using `{{starrwulfe}}` instead of the longer User: wiki link
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loqi.me created /fynd (+34) "prompted by [snarfed] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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c​apjamesg What is an ISSN?
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capjamesg What is an ISSN?
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Loqi capjamesg: [tantek] left you a message 5 days, 22 hours ago: please review and feel free to expand/edit as you see fit: https://indieweb.org/reStructuredText#More_Complicated_Than_Markdown
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ISSN" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "ISSN is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] lol
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capjamesg An International Standard Serial Number (ISSN) is an identification number for periodicals that at least two IndieWeb community members have on their websites.
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capjamesg An ISSN is an identification number for periodicals that at least two IndieWeb community members have on their websites.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /ISSN (+144) "prompted by capjamesg and dfn added by capjamesg" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog edited /ISSN (+433) (view diff)
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[tantek] yo here comes a 20+ year old permalink ...
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[tantek] ISSN << 2003-09-24 Zeldman: [https://www.zeldman.com/daily/0903b.shtml#se2403 Must-link-to: ISSN and weblogs] <blockquote>Many independent web periodicals, including the one you’re reading, have long held an ISSN number (ours is 1534-0309). Once you obtain such a number, your publication officially exists in a standardized encyclopedia of periodicals maintained by the world’s librarians.</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "2003-09-24 Zeldman: [https://www.zeldman.com/daily/0903b.shtml#se2403 Must-link-to: ISSN and weblogs] <blockquote>Many independent web periodicals, including the one you’re reading, have long held an ISSN number (ours is 1534-0309). Once you obtain such a number, your publication officially exists in a standardized encyclopedia of periodicals maintained by the world’s librarians.</blockquote>" to a new "See Also" section of /ISSN https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=92118&oldid=92117
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loqi.me edited /ISSN (+419) "[tantek] added "2003-09-24 Zeldman: [https://www.zeldman.com/daily/0903b.shtml#se2403 Must-link-to: ISSN and weblogs] <blockquote>Many independent web periodicals, including the one you’re reading, have long held an ISSN number (ours is 1534-0309). Once you obtain such a number, your publication officially exists in a standardized encyclopedia of periodicals maintained by the world’s librarians.</blockquote>" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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c​apjamesg 🙂
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tantek.com edited /ISSN (+72) "subheads, cite Zeldman since 2003, sort" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /ISSN (+4) "no template for zeldman (yet)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+217) "/* 2003 */ Jeffrey Zeldman mention of "indie web publisher", use of "indie web" as an adjective" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+22) "/* 2010 */ indie web as a noun, see also 2003 use of phrase" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /timeline (-7) "found earlier mention of "indie web publisher" by Zeldman" (view diff)
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www.ciccarello.me edited /ISSN (+103) "Add link to ISSN International Center" (view diff)
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www.ciccarello.me edited /ISSN (+513) "Add How To section describing issues with eligibility" (view diff)