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tantek.com edited /variable_fonts (+74) "dfn indieweb relevance, SA web fonts" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /web_font (+23) "r" (view diff)
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www.ciccarello.me edited /web_fonts (+283) "add why not section" (view diff)
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www.ciccarello.me edited /web_fonts (+365) "/* Past Examples */ add ciccarello.me" (view diff)
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www.ciccarello.me edited /web_fonts (+120) "/* Tools */ add modern-font-stacks list" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /single_point_of_failure (+512) "dfn IndieWeb relevance, incorporate SAs" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /single_point_of_failure (+2) "a" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Google (+271) "just the API home page that's down (normally?) not a particular endpoint" (view diff)
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[tantek] well that was a bunch of time spent updating a few wiki pages with nothing really to post about
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[tantek] what is SPOF
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Loqi Single points of failure (SPOFs) are aspects or parts of a system which, when they fail, cause crucial parts of (or the entire) system to fail; on the web, the most visible examples are silos and massive site outages when they all depend on a common provider like AWS https://indieweb.org/spof
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[tantek] ^ that's cleaned up a bunch
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[tantek] what are web fonts
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Loqi web fonts are a way to serve custom fonts on websites, and used by some IndieWeb sites https://indieweb.org/web_fonts
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[tantek] ^ new page, hopefully useful to someone at some point
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www.ciccarello.me edited /2023/SD (+220) "/* Posts */ add posts from ciccarello.me" (view diff)
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] [aaronpk] Looking ahead to switching the default theme next Wednesday, do you think you might be able to fix this issue ahead of then? https://github.com/indieweb/wiki/issues/52
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Loqi [preview] [paulrobertlloyd] #52 Fix live search on Vector 2022 theme
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[tantek] I wondered why that seemed broken
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[tantek] [Paul_Robert_Ll] why is that broken in 2022 but not Vector 2010? That's the real question
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[tantek] Why the regression in Vector 2022?
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aaronpk i can take a look
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[tantek] I blame JS
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aaronpk it's always JS
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aaronpk no wait that's DNS
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sknebel lol
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sknebel the old skin uses the opensearch endpoint
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sknebel mediawiki has been redoing a bunch of the API, generally moving it to that endpoint
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sknebel (i.e. /v1/rest.php vs /api.php)
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sknebel if I remember right some earlier scripting I wanted to do also failed because only api.php was exposed
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] MediaWiki feels very much a moving target 😅
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sknebel its not *that* new, and our setup apparently individually filtering paths is kinda asking for trouble with new additions
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sknebel oh, hah, new API work driven by evanp it seems, back when he was working for WMF
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[tantek] we're also not the only MediaWiki that is hiding/removing the superfluous (plumbing?) "/wiki" segment so that ought to be a "normal" thing by now
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aaronpk i don't know what you mean by "filtering paths"
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aaronpk the wiki is installed in a "wiki" folder
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aaronpk mediawiki has had instructions for making the URLs different from the wiki installation folder forever https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL
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sknebel aaronpk: I assumed the old is working because you've manually set up something allowing access to api.php, but not to the rest.php? thats what I meant by "filtering"
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aaronpk nope
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aaronpk ah it's because the path is `/wiki/rest.php/v1...` not `/wiki/rest.php?`
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aaronpk why did they put a path after the .php file? that seems like it would break on most default web server configs
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aaronpk hah in their example nginx config they have to special-case that rest.php handling https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Short_URL/Nginx
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sknebel lol, I instinctively read it the other way around
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aaronpk well i can add the special handling for that
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aaronpk done
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sknebel aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 35 karma in this channel over the last year (112 in all channels)
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sknebel now if I'll remember what I wanted to use the newer editing API for ...
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paulrobertlloyd.com edited /MediaWiki_customizations (-243) "Remove issue with search box" (view diff)
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] aaronpk++
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] [aaronpk] Is it worth adding a notes about this fix to https://indieweb.org/MediaWiki_customizations#Issues
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aaronpk hmm the nginx config is missing from that page entirely
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[tantek] yes worth adding!
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[tantek] capjamesg also has a MediaWiki install and he may want to update his as well
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tantek.com edited /Main_Page (+62) "try updating to main page search box to input type=search" (view diff)
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[tantek] I'm wondering if I mimic the "<div class="vector-typeahead-search-container">" markup etc if that will be enough to trick their JS into using the form on main
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[tantek] also lols "div > div > form > div#simpleSearch > div > input" no that is not "simple" wtf
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[tantek] (that's from view source on a "normal" page like /discuss)
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[tantek] in Vector 2022
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adactio.com edited /2024/Brighton (+14) "/* In person */" (view diff)
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] [tantek] In the updated homepage, there’s no need to add a search box, the one in the header remains. If that’s what you’re attempting.
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[tantek] Ah, thanks [Paul_Robert_Ll] from saving me from unnecessary hackery
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+77) "rm Matrix from dfn since del markup doesn't make it to Loqi/chat, note dropped bridge in a second sentence instead, linking to longer section" (view diff)
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[tantek] what is discuss
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Loqi 💬 Join the #indieweb discussion via the web, Slack, IRC, or Discord clients now with additional channels for dev, wordpress, and meta specific chat! https://indieweb.org/DISCUSS
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[tantek] better. though why is that all caps 🤔
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tantek.com deleted /DISCUSS "seems to errantly show up in Loqi "what is" response, nothing links to this ALLCAPS version. content was: "#REDIRECT[[discuss]]", and the only contributor was "[[Special:Contributions/Aaronparecki.com|Aaronparecki.com]]" ([[User talk:Aaronparecki.com|talk]])"
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[tantek] what is discuss
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Loqi 💬 Join the #indieweb discussion via the web, Slack, IRC, or Discord clients now with additional channels for dev, wordpress, and meta specific chat! https://indieweb.org/discuss
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[tantek] better
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[schmarty] yeah the Matrix <=> librechat official bridge is not coming back at this point. if we want to bring matrix back it'll require a community member to set up and maintain it. 😕
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gRegor I removed the mention in HWC Pacific events recently
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[tantek] what is different from 1999?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "different from 1999" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "different from 1999 is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] different from 1999 is /different
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /different_from_1999 (+22) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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[tantek] aaronpk++ lol 2015 blog post https://aaronparecki.com/2015/08/29/8/why-i-live-in-irc on Hacker News driving people to the #indieweb channel in droves
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capjamesg What's old is new.
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paulrobertlloyd.com edited /2024/homepage (+1263) "Add rollout schedule for updating homepages and switching default theme" (view diff)
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aaronpk 2015!
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[Paul_Robert_Ll] [tantek] ☝ Thinking might be prudent to start by updating language variants of the main page a day before changing English language homepage, then switch the default theme on the 14th. Slow rollout to make sure any bugs/issues are caught. Thoughts?
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[tantek] Ooh that's a good idea
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