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2024-06-05 UTC
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[tantek] definitely does not make it searchable
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[tantek] that's part of the problem
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tantek.com edited /Beyond_Tellerrand (+212) "/* 2024 DUS */ was, link to the camp, add talks playlist on YouTube" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (-23) "comment out Save Dates example to re-use structure when the next IWC is confirmed, move Dusseldorf to 2025 TBD" (view diff)
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[tantek] ah, now I understand why this was so confusing. shebang is old unix-era term. hashbang is what it's called in the context of a URL
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[tantek] going to fix the page name / redirection accordingly because NO ONE calls it a "shebang" in the context of a URL so that's been confusing
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[tantek] see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URI_fragment#hash-bang
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tantek.com edited /shebang (+506) "rewrite dfn to user-relevance, specific to URLs, specific bad example and IndieWeb relevance (avoid), start Criticism subsections, incorporate See Alsos, SA Wikipedia about hash-bang" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Special:Log/move () "moved [[shebang]] to [[hashbang]] over redirect: hashbang is what it is in the context of a URL; shebang has no IndieWeb relevance and is legacy unix terminology" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Special:Log/delete () "Tantek.com deleted redirect [[hashbang]] by overwriting: Deleted to make way for move from "[[shebang]]"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /hashbang (+47) "see also Wikipedia shebang (in case people search for that string)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /hashbang (+236) "/* Criticism */ incorporate general into specific" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /hashbang (+58) "link spa" (view diff)
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GWG I believe I owed this. https://archive.org/details/intros-indie-web-camp-dusseldorf-2024
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[tantek] GWG++
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capjamesg[d] GWG++
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[tantek] Now just need to link it from the schedule grid and intros session pages!
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[tantek] Slack << Criticism: Appears Slack may use private or limited-audience “customer data” (messages) to train global AI models. https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles — you have to explicitly opt-out: <blockquote>If you want to exclude your Customer Data from helping to train Slack global models, you can opt out.</blockquote>
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Loqi ok, I added "Criticism: Appears Slack may use private or limited-audience “customer data” (messages) to train global AI models. https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles — you have to explicitly opt-out: <blockquote>If you want to exclude your Customer Data from helping to train Slack global models, you can opt out.</blockquote>" to the "See Also" section of /Slack https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=95703&oldid=95195
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[tantek] aaronpk, did we opt-out already for the IndieWeb Slack?
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aaronpk yes
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aaronpk i got this response:
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[tantek] we should document that on the /Slack page
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aaronpk > For clarity, Slack has platform-level machine learning models for things like channel and emoji recommendations and search results. We do not build or train these models in such a way that they could learn, memorize, or be able to reproduce some part of customer data.
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aaronpk > Slack AI is a separately purchased add-on that uses Large Language Models (LLMs) but does not train those LLMs on customer data. Slack AI uses LLMs hosted directly within Slack’s AWS infrastructure, so that customer data remains in-house and is not shared with any LLM provider.
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Loqi it is probable
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[tantek] like literally when we opted out (sent the message) and when we got confirmation and then yes quote that ^
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aaronpk what is slack?
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Loqi Slack is a closed-source team communication tool similar to IRC but with expanding support for various types of content such as emoji polls, inline images, and attachments https://indieweb.org/Slack
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[tantek] extra credit add a "How to opt out of LLM training" section for Slack instance admins
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aaronparecki.com edited /Slack (+1468) (view diff)
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[tantek] aaronpk++ thank you!
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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[tantek] AramZS++ welcome back!
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capjamesg[d] AramZS++
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AramZS Hi!
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AramZS Thanks!
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marksuth.dev edited /search (+222) "/* IndieWeb Examples */" (view diff)
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marksuth.dev edited /Planning (+0) "/* London (Peckham) */" (view diff)
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Loqi "Homebrew Website Club Europe/London" call ended https://events.indieweb.org/2024/06/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-NLNWuLwVVpUG
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[Jo] oh man i forgot that was today :face_with_spiral_eyes:
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[tantek] it was quite hilarious and fun and productive!
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[tantek] [marksuth]++ for building & deploying a new feature during the call!
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GWG Looking forward to tonight's HWC. Talk to the gang