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tantek.com edited /quotation (+107) "add all four typical double-curly-quote and single-curly-quote marks to the How to markup section" (view diff)
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tiffnix.com edited /git (+127) "add codeberg to the open source silos section" (view diff)
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[tantek] Regarding curly quotes, if it's a struggle in any way for/while creating indieweb content it's worth documenting on the wiki to reduce the pain/struggle for others on their personal sites
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[tantek] What is relevant to the indieweb
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Loqi Anything directly related to people with their own websites, such as technologies and services used, design and UX, formats and protocols, as well as events or podcasts with IndieWeb talks or content are relevant to the IndieWeb wiki https://indieweb.org/relevant_to_the_IndieWeb
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capjamesg[d] I think it's relevant.
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[tantek] relevant to the indieweb << if it's a struggle in any way for/while creating indieweb content it's worth documenting on the wiki to reduce the pain/struggle for others on their personal sites.
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Loqi ok, I added "if it's a struggle in any way for/while creating indieweb content it's worth documenting on the wiki to reduce the pain/struggle for others on their personal sites." to the "See Also" section of /relevant_to_the_IndieWeb_wiki https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=95977&oldid=94526
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capjamesg[d] I don't know how I would use curly quotes right now beyond copying the Unicode character and replacing it in my text files.
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[tantek] what are curly quotes
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "curly quotes" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "curly quotes is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[KevinMarks] on the mac keyboard they are option-[ and option-] for oprn quotes and option-shift those keys for close quotes/apostrophe
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capjamesg[d] I don't like that 😬
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capjamesg[d] Three keys to press?
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[KevinMarks] I'm used to it I suppose, it seems easy to me. Plus those are right above the ' key
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[tantek] Yes it takes practice but like a bicycle you get used to it
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[tantek] The muscle memory is easier than command lines which take way more than three keys to press 😂
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[KevinMarks] it's like the accent keys fro Mac, they're easy to remember because they match the letters that oftenhave those accents
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paperbritt A long time ago I remember having to seek out rogue curly quotes and apostrophes in text pasted from Word. It doesn't break things as much anymore but it sure looks inconsistent to see them in the same body of text.
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gRegor That beats windows where it's Alt + 0147, and the numbers can only be via the number pad, which my keyboard does not have XD
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[tantek] maybe need a set of bookmarklets one for each curly quote so you can quickly select the one you want 😂
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capjamesg[d] 😄
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capjamesg[d] There is an opportunity for a corny portmanteau here.
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capjamesg[d] curlets 😄
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gRegor haha
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gRegor 👀 https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Clipboard
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gRegor omg it worked
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gRegor [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 25 karma in this channel over the last year (109 in all channels)
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[tantek] amazing gRegor! How many curlypastelets did you make? 😆
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gRegor 4, regular quotes and single quotes
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capjamesg[d] curlypastelets. I love it.
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[tantek] now we just need the wiki page so you can share your pastelets code into a Tools section
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gRegor Interesting minutiae about the Unicode apostrophe type characters. I was thinking for a moment I needed to use "modifier letter apostrophe" based on its name, but apparently "right single quotation mark" is correct now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe#Unicode
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[KevinMarks] ❝that's what she said❞
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capjamesg[d] Those quotes came through to me emboldened.
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[tantek] Yeah no need for all the excess Unicode fancy quotes
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[KevinMarks] they're called HEAVY DOUBLE TURNED COMMA QUOTATION MARK ORNAMENT
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[tantek] ORNAMENT--
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Loqi ORNAMENT has -1 karma over the last year
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capjamesg[d] 😂
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capjamesg[d] HDTCQMO for short.
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capjamesg[d] Do we need another acronym?
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[tantek] No
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capjamesg[d] You should see the Taylor Swift subreddit.
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capjamesg[d] I am literally thinking of making a translator for me.
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Loqi +1
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capjamesg[d] I can't find an example now, but I have seen a few of the longer names spelled as abbreviations.
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capjamesg[d] Ah, like: https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/puq0ci/that_brother_lyric_from_ciwyw/
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capjamesg[d] https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/qlzq4x/how_do_you_imagine_the_dancing_in_dwoht/
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capjamesg[d] https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/oyp7va/ikywt_and_22_snippets/
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zacharykai.net edited /sitemap (+43) (view diff)
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[tantek] capjamesg[d] I have an abbreviations page on my wiki TxtShorthands 😆
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zacharykai.net edited /User:Zacharykai.net (+526) (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] Link?
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capjamesg[d] And should I be making this TS reference page? 😄
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capjamesg[d] It will be a task.
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capjamesg[d] I'll need to cross-check the abbreviations with Reddit to verify actual usage.
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[tantek] I use the domain/w/ convention for my wiki pages e.g. http://tantek.com/w/TxtShorthands
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capjamesg[d] Good to know.
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zacharykai.net edited /release_notes (+81) (view diff)
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capjamesg[d] Wow.
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capjamesg[d] That's a long list.
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capjamesg[d] And the specificity of "OTC = On The Corner (cafe on Divisadero)" 😂
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capjamesg[d] nfl = non-fat latte. I love it.
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zacharykai.net edited /tip (+54) (view diff)
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[tantek] That cafe might be gone sad to say
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[tantek] Yes, much of this was spurred by the 140char limit of 2007 era twitter
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zacharykai.net edited /User:Zacharykai.net (+30) (view diff)
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