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[tantek] usually it's something that's created when the topic overwhelms an existing channel. haven't seen that yet
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[mattl] Okay so I can generally invite people here and when we get annoying enough we may get a channel?
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[tantek] we went through periods where both Known and WordPress-specific dev / install / maintenance discussions were dominating #indieweb-dev, and thus spun them out to their own channels
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[tantek] more #indieweb-dev I'd presume since it still requires some setup? or is it "simple" enough (no install needed!) for "users" of it to just use #indieweb perhaps?
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[mattl] Thinking http://Libre.fm stuff would benefit from this but don’t want to make another Slack etc
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[tantek] can folks use it without understanding jargon?
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[tantek] for development questions thoughts though, #indieweb-dev
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[mattl] Oh yeah I’d hope so but a lot of people would be wanting to work on it
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[tantek] would they be doing so in the context of self-hosted versions of it? or to contribute to the central service?
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[tantek] (self-hosted presumably on their personal sites, thus IndieWeb-relevance)
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[mattl] For now the centralized service but wouldn’t see a link to join until they’ve embraced rel me stuff.
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[tantek] makes sense
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gRegor If you don't mind IRC only, could always set up a channel on Libera
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[mattl] Nobody checks IRC sadly
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[tantek] yeah if everyone contributing is using it on their personal site, seems like a great way to get more IndieWeb-adjacent folks into the community
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[tantek] [mattl] nobody but the bots
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gRegor There are dozens of us!
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[mattl] I’d love to be at the point where I can offer something like http://blogger.com where we can SFTP stuff to your site for you and then have a little PHP thing which can read it.
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[tantek] heh
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[mattl] I’m on IRC all day every day for the last 20+ years and there’s almost nobody left, sadly.
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tantek.com edited /hacker_images (-228) "the "two laptops" photos have clear visible faces and aside from a hoodie in one, don't otherwise resemble any of the aesthetics of the hacker photos" (view diff)
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[tantek] [mattl] I presume you found this page a while ago ^ if not, you might get a good laugh
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[mattl] I should add myself. https://mat.tl/super-hacker/
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Loqi +1
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tantek.com edited /hacker_images (-10) "no longer a stub, good enough to keep incrementally growing" (view diff)
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[tantek] haha that counts. I'll drop it in
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[tantek] this is going to be an entertaining newsletter week
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[tantek] kinda wish we should featured image icons/thumbnails or at least emoji for the New and Recently Most Edited articles sections
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[tantek] [mattl] ok I'm reading your page and the number of inclusions of your image in media is impressive. well done. excellent "hack" 😂
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[tantek] best IndieWeb Example yet of a hacker photo
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[tantek] well that was not my intention to send that to the top of the newsletter for this week but here we are
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[tantek] I don't think we have many (if any) violent or military metaphors in use on the wiki, but both for the case of any existing and maybe discouraging adding, I wonder if it would help to start to provide alternatives or sources of alternative metaphors to use instead? E.g. we have lots in the gardening/farming area, music/musicians could also be a good source, perhaps other forms of craftsmanship, and of course the typical fallback of sports.
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[tantek] alright I'll post about it
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[KevinMarks] Tantek, isn't your 2 laptops photo a common stock photo?
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[tantek] Never seen it use in the media, nevermind commonly, or in any stock catalog
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[KevinMarks] I was used in a BBC documentary about 80s microcomputers - we'd skipped school to go to a computer show and got busted when we showed up on the news
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[KevinMarks] https://chat-uploads.indieweb.org/files/2024/10/meta-20241009-185643-kmhacker.jpeg
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[tantek] also [KevinMarks] there's nothing "hackery" about those photos of me with 2 laptops
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[Joe_Crawford] That's tremendous [KevinMarks]! I was just pondering how wonderful it was in the 1980s to be able to walk up to computers in department stores and write programs. https://artlung.com/blog/2024/10/07/cyberpunk-at-40/
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[tantek] posted as promised: https://tantek.com/2024/283/t1/metaphors-constructive-cooperative-joyful
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[tantek] cc: capjamesg[d] since we talked about it a bit in our espresso live stream chat this morning
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capjamesg[d] [tantek]++
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[KevinMarks] hm, now zoom isn't running my mac is responsive again. I wonder if it was doing hacky things to the window manager
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] have you tried the web version of Zoom in Firefox?
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[KevinMarks] can that do screencasting?
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[tantek] pretty sure?
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[tantek] you mean screensharing?
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