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gRegor
[Joe_Crawford], put together some ideas for the health and safety policy: https://indieweb.org/User:Gregorlove.com/sandbox#2024_SD_Health_and_Safety_Policy
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[Joe_Crawford]
[gRegorLove] reading
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gRegor
I think BAB was talking about getting their own portable air purifiers, though not sure if they do yet. I think they borrowed from Fan Favorite in the past.
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gRegor
That section may not be as important, just an idea while I was reading the other policies
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[Joe_Crawford]
[gRegorLove] is there possibility to slipping down mask to eat/sip while also staying in the room? Leeway or would that increase risk too much?
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[Joe_Crawford]
But generally I like it and thank you for this very much. I know it's key to inclusivity for the event!
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gRegor
I thought about that, wasn't sure honestly and felt I was getting too wordy trying to sort it out, heh.
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gRegor
Generally I guess it could be like, "if you need to slip your mask down to take a sip, please step away from the group to a well-ventilated area"
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gRegor
Tracy had some ideas on that, maybe a designated space https://tracydurnell.com/2024/05/13/reply-to-gregor-covid-safety-at-events/
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[Joe_Crawford]
I think language about "caution" and "reasonable" "Cautious, short duration slipping the mask down to sip or snack is reasonable"
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[Joe_Crawford]
Oh that's good too.
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[tantek]
[Joe_Crawford] W3C has some wording around that that we could borrow. Even the CSS Working Group, which is still diligently requiring masking at face-to-face meetings has an allowance for that IIRC
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[tantek]
let me see if I can find the wording they used
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[tantek]
found TPAC 2023 which was when all meetings were required to be masked: https://www.w3.org/2023/09/TPAC/health.html#on-site
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[tantek]
a bit long but for the record: "You may only remove your mask while drinking, and must put your mask back on immediately afterwards. *Masks must be absolutely worn while speaking*." (*Emphasis* in original)
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[tantek]
"Masks required in the meeting room Thursday and Friday, can be removed only while actively eating/drinking"
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gRegor
North Bay Python's was as part of exceptions to the mask section: "Attendees, while actively eating or drinking in the presentation space. Note that your facial covering must be worn between bites or sips." I prefer the TPAC 2023 one personally.
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[tantek]
yes I think the TPAC 2023 wording is clearer
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[tantek]
and limiting it to drinking is good
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[tantek]
I think they may have had more words at some point but simplified it for greater chance of understanding thus compliance
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[tantek]
that's the problem with longer more detailed rules — they often have the opposite effect, fewer people follow them
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[tantek]
usability 101 🙂