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tantek.com edited /code-of-conduct-examples (+518) "/* CC BY SA */ add Stumptown Syndicate policies on GH and IA version from its own domain" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /code-of-conduct-examples (+62) "Stumptown policies repo" (view diff)
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david.shanske.com edited /2024/Berlin (+35) "/* RSVPd or Interested */" (view diff)
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[tantek] Considering adding this to the "coming up in 5 days!" email that I'm drafting to have Marc send out ASAP, what would people think of something like this (especially if they got it after signing up for an event) ?
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[tantek] "IndieWebCamp strongly encourages and supports a diverse and inclusive environment. Please especially consider inviting your friends who are a different gender or have a different background than yourself."
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[tantek] ^ do folks think that would help, harm, or not impact diversity at an IndieWebCamp?
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[tantek] especially curious to hear from organizers who have experience with successfully organizing more diverse events
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tantek.com created /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (+1682) "stub with a draft Get ready for IndieWebCamp Berlin 2024 message" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ context: https://indieweb.org/2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails#Get_ready_for_IndieWebCamp_Berlin_2024
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[aciccarello] [tantek] I think an explicit recommendation to invite people of different backgrounds would be a good reminder. But I'm squarely in the majority of most demographics so I'm probably not the best judge.
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[tantek] thanks aciccarello. part of this is trying to do at least some additional work to be explicitly inclusive, rather than just "default welcoming". it takes work to shift a community to be more diverse and heterogeneous and I for one think it's worth organizer time & effort to do so
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[aciccarello] I agree and also would like to prioritize that effort.
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[aciccarello] I think it'd be great for IWCs to invite more creatives outside of software.
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[tantek] 100%
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GWG I've still failed in my 2018 assignment to make more diverse friends in person. Of course, I've failed in my personal assignment to make more friends in general...it's been a tough few years.
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[tantek] GWG, keep up the efforts, it's hard work but it does eventually produce results
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[aciccarello] Shout out to Tracy Durnell. She has made some really good IndieWeb adjacent posts that aren't just about how to build things. I'd love to see more perspectives like hers.
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[aciccarello] e.g. https://tracydurnell.com/category/websites/
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GWG I think Tracy is an asset to a community that sometimes gets too into the weeds.
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gRegor tracydurnell++
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[tantek] tracydurnell++
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[tantek] GWG, you may wish to consider rephrasing that statement because it could be misinterpreted as saying that Tracy herself gets too into the weeds, which I'm sure you didn't mean to say 🙂
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GWG Good point
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GWG I think the community does sometimes and Tracy is a good counterpoint to that.
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GWG I unfortunately, like the weeds
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[tantek] That's ok, that's what we have the #indieweb-dev channel for 😂
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GWG So, it is personally helpful to be brought out of them
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gRegor Isn't that what angelo's scythe is for, trimming the weeds? :D
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[tantek] lol
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[Joe_Crawford] May's "Social Norms in the IndieWeb" asked great questions about the human meaning of this stuff. https://indieweb.org/events/2024-05-18-hwc-social-norms
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GWG I have seen angelo's driving...I'm worried about him with a scythe.
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin (+365) "/* Planning */ + emails to send registrants" (view diff)
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[tantek] [Joe_Crawford] on a recent HWC notes archive I added subsection headings by topic to make it easier to browse/find/link things after the fact
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[tantek] Might be just me, but I have difficulty reading many screenfuls of otherwise indistinguishable text like in that social norms wiki archive. Curious if anyone else has such challenges (could be a cognitive accessibility thing?)
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[Joe_Crawford] I strive to format the FrESH notes for that reason.
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[tantek] Example of HWC notes with subsection headings added *after the fact* (which should be fine IMO, to avoid getting distracted by organizing notes during the HWC, but also helpful if folks think of it during) https://indieweb.org/events/2024-10-23-hwc-europe#Notes
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[tantek] [Joe_Crawford] if there are some best practices we can recommend, perhaps we can summarize in a "how to" somewhere?
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[tantek] Do we have an obvious place for "how to"s for HWCs?
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gRegor Probably in https://indieweb.org/Homebrew_Website_Club#Running_the_event, or linked out from there if it needs its own page/section
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gregorlove.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+32) "/* Running the event */ s/main chat/#indieweb-events chat/" (view diff)
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gRegor I also have difficulty reading the long bulleted-list pages
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[Joe_Crawford] A callout in the "After the event" would be an appropriate addition. I can commit to looking at that social norms page in the next 2 weeks. I did get a lot out of it. I feel like there were some blog posts about it too but I may just be making that up.
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (+0) "caps in list starters" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin (+142) "/* RSVPd or Interested */ flatten list of organizers, drop organizer label from going (already listed as such later in page), add what I'm interested in, and hoping to work on. add CTA" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-popups (+165) "update from https://events.indieweb.org/tag/popup" (view diff)
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[tantek] Indeed gRegor. We have lots of pages with lots of long copy that could be simplified for better readability.
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[tantek] lol now going down deep dive of editing the Attending an IndieWebCamp page because of that
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tantek.com edited /IndieWebCamps/Attending (+35) "/* Overall Format */ copy edit / rewrite a bunch of intro and Day 1. drop lots of unnecessary details (especially for newcomers), simplify lots of text, clauses, use active rather than passive sentence forms, encourage positives more than discouraging negatives. link photo policy, note hashtags" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (+187) "link to attending guide for folks to learn more if they like, copy edits" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (-3) "/* Get ready for IndieWebCamp Berlin 2024 */ en-US" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (+20) "/* Get ready for IndieWebCamp Berlin 2024 */ IWC Ber organizers in particular" (view diff)
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[tantek] ^ if any other Organizers have opinions or suggestions (or certainly if you see any problems!) for the "in advance" welcome email, please LMK!
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gRegor I think it should mention and link to the Health and Safety policy
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning (+2163) "move Checklists here from main IWC BER 2024 page" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin () "(-2069) /* Planning */ move checklists to separate planning page" (view diff)
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[tantek] good call gRegor
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (+148) "+ explicit mention and link to code of conduct and health and safety policies" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (+8) "later this week not next week lol" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning (+484) "Videos to show" (view diff)
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[tantek] anything else?
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning (+208) "/* Videos to show */ You Should Check Out the Indie Web" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning (+97) "move 90s video to Not showing, watch yourself if you like" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning (+128) "/* Videos to consider showing */ Unsorted videos" (view diff)
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tantek.com deleted /Introduction "delete to make room for its own page, content was: "#redirect[[2019/Introduction]]""
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tantek.com created /Introduction (+877) "stub on the general concept and examples of Introduction sessions" (view diff)
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[tantek] If anyone here particularly enjoyed the Introduction of any past IndieWebCamps/Summits that they've been to, please add a link to it here! https://indieweb.org/Introduction#Sessions
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (-7) "dedupe see(ing)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (+79) "need full names in advance for venue security" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning/Emails (+37) "sent to Marc" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024/Berlin/Planning (+19) "move completed tasks to their own list, note first email sent to Marc to send registered folks" (view diff)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:IWC Signage.pdf]]" https://indieweb.org/File:IWC_Signage.pdf"
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tantek.com edited /IndieWebCamp_Organizing (+72) "/* Two Days Before */ Signs to direct people near and at the venue" (view diff)
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[tantek] jkphl++ for the PDF for the signs!
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[tantek] Y no https?
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[mattl] I have no idea if XKCD is using HTTPS.
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tantek.com edited /welcoming (+2) "/* See Also */ xkcd redirects to https even" (view diff)