#meta 2024-11-15

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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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rudersdorf.com created /User:Rudersdorf.com (+1409) "Created page with "{{Infobox person |name = Stefan Rudersdorf |url = https://rudersdorf.com |summary = Frankfurt am Main, Germany |sparkline = <span class="h-card" style="white-space:nowrap">{{sparkline|1=https://rudersdorf.com/favicon.ico}} [[User:Rudersdorf.com|srudersdorf]]</span> }} I have been interested in IndieWeb Techniques for a long time but just recently started working on my own website. Not a huge fan of spending time on ANY Social Media Platform out there. Hoping that POSSE..."" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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[tantek] [juliaro]++
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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[Joe_Crawford] GWG I cropped the Zoom chrome from the Pacific group photo. Thanks for getting a photo GWG++
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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[Joe_Crawford] https://manuelmoreale.com/pb-sara-jaksa feels like a candidate for IndieNews. I wish it had the markup so I could just submit it.
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capjamesg[d] You can submit a bookmark of it!
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[Joe_Crawford] Or someone else could. 😄 I have avoided webmentions that are not posts.
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[Joe_Crawford] I do have an intention to start sending likes but for now bookmarks I keep are private.
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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[tantek] ^ aaronpk this is the DST bug again
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[tantek] can you please regenerate the newsletter so it has the IndieWebCamp Berlin photos?
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[tantek] note that this IS a bug in Loqi's generation script as it says "I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time" which implies 14:50 final regeneration, while at 13:50 it claims "final version of the newsletter" 😞
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[tantek] Loqi, please regenerate the newsletter
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[tantek] Loqi, please make newsletter
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[tantek] ^ we need Loqi commands like RRSAgent
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[tantek] aaronpk, do you have a big red button on your desk that you can push to make Loqi manually regenerate the newsletter?
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capjamesg[d] aaronpk How do I remove a photo from an event? https://events.indieweb.org/2024/11/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-E5RqS9cRyOqm
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capjamesg[d] [edit] aaronpk How do I remove a photo from an event? https://events.indieweb.org/2024/11/homebrew-website-club-europe-london-E5RqS9cRyOqm
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capjamesg[d] I accidentally added this week's screenshot to next week's event 😅
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[tantek] capjamesg[d], the little [v] menu on the event next to "Edit", choose "Edit responses"
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capjamesg[d] [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 39 karma in this channel over the last year (132 in all channels)
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capjamesg[d] Done!
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[tantek] now we just need the Loqi, regenerate newsletter command
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aaronpk let's see
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aaronpk so far every time i've done this manyually i've broken something
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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aaronpk and cron job updated for standard time
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capjamesg[d] aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 40 karma in this channel over the last year (120 in all channels)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-11-15.html
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[tantek] yay looks good! aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 41 karma in this channel over the last year (121 in all channels)
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Loqi woot
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capjamesg[d] What a newsletter!
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[tantek] do you have to update the cron job manually for every DST change?
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aaronpk yeah
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[tantek] because it's based on UTC?
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aaronpk i was hoping we'd get rid of DST before I had to figure out how to not do that
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[tantek] lol
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aaronpk yeah the server clock is UTC
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aaronpk as it should be
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[tantek] right, that part is fine. it's the datetime math that's using constants instead of Pacific DST specific function call IMO
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aaronpk it's not datetime math, it's cron
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aaronpk `0,30 16,17,18,19,20 * * 5`
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[tantek] 😳
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aaronpk and in the summer i change it to `15,16,17,18,19`
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[tantek] is the cron for generating the newsletter different from the process that emails the newsletter?
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aaronpk the email is actually sent by mailchimp, not from the server
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aaronpk so the cron job is continually updating the xml file that mailchimp ultimately pulls from at 3pm
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[tantek] ahhhh
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[tantek] so mailchimp *IS* Pacific DST sensitive at least
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gRegor Is there any way to limit Discord message length? Seen a couple instances where it gets cut off when bridging to IRC
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[tantek] 114 days until remind aaronpk to change the This Week newsletter generation cron to the DST configuration: `0,30 15,16,17,18,19 * * 5`
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2025-03-09 11:47pm UTC (#7161)
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[tantek] almost
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[tantek] !cancel 7161
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Loqi Okay, I cancelled it!
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[tantek] 114 days until remind aaronpk to change the This Week newsletter generation cron to the DST configuration: `0,30 15,16,17,18,19 * * 5` and remind tantek to set a new countdown to set a similar reminder as the entirety of this reminder for about a year from now. Recursion++
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2025-03-09 11:49pm UTC (#7162)
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[tantek] 352 days until remind aaronpk to change the This Week newsletter generation cron to the Standard Time configuration: `0,30 16,17,18,19,20 * * 5` and remind tantek to set a new countdown to a similar reminder as the entirety of this reminder for about a year from now. Recursion++
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Loqi I added a countdown scheduled for 2025-11-02 11:51pm UTC (#7163)
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[tantek] ^ my attempt at scripting the humans to work around a bot scripting limitation
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loqi.me created /Human_experience (+210) "prompted by capjamesg[d] and dfn added by capjamesg[d]" (view diff)
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loqi.me edited /Human_experience (+132) "capjamesg[d] added "[https://jamesg.blog/2024/11/15/human-experience-design/ "Let's replace "user experience with human experience"]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /user-interface (+379) "similar to-do as UX" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /user-experience (+11) "explicit to-do for findability" (view diff)