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[Joe_Crawford] Disambiguation note on each perfectly reasonable if there’s different nuance to each!
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[mattl] Okay, I cleaned up the stickers page.
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[tantek]2 [mattl]++ nicely done!
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[tantek]2 aaronpk, since Loqi is already fetching a link from chat to get the link preview, could it also send it to the Internet Archive?
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[tantek]2 Use-case, over time, we could (semi?)automatically link "older" external links in the logs to their Internet Archive versions. Like even say 5 year old logs for example
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[tantek]2 Because it is possible to automatically generate a dated Internet Archive link if you know the date it was archived
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aaronpk i think Loqi is already doing that
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aaronpk assuming http://web.archive.org/save/ is still the correct prefix
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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aaronpk hmm
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aaronpk it looks like it's saved but it's not showing up when i search IA
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aaronpk ok just some delay
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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[Joe_Crawford] San Diego photos looking great. Thanks [Al_Abut]++
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[tantek]2 I'm wondering if some sort of "entry" template would help for primarily reverse chronological pages like https://indieweb.org/videos_about_the_indieweb because then people could follow them in their readers and see new items when added
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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aaronpk oh yeah makes sense
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[tantek]2 great IWC SD photos! Thanks [Al_Abut]++
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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[tantek]2 I think I want to include the new event notes pages (whether IWC sessions, HWC, FrESH) as new pages in the gift calendar. Any objections? I think the community certainly benefits by the labor of archiving those notes, and thus it is a gift for all of us!
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aaronpk that sounds like a material contribution
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gregorlove.com edited /Haunt (+75) "update dfn" (view diff)
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gRegor what is haunt
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Loqi Haunt is a static site generator written in GNU Guile Scheme and used by some community members on their personal website https://indieweb.org/Haunt
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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gRegor I like that the first picture, the sign cuts off so it's "ZINES BOOKS GIF" https://events.indieweb.org/2024/12/indiewebcamp-san-diego-2024-7C9aq9A4Zv9m
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gRegor [alabut]++ for pictures
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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[Al_Abut] [Joe_Crawford], [tantek] and [gRegorLove]: I have more pics but didn’t want to overload the page with a full album. I’m guessing the best way to link the rest to the event is to blog out a photo set and then…? Add a link to the event page? Set up webmentions and (waves hands around) they show up somewhere?
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[Al_Abut] And how do I “tag” people in that photo set? Back to their blogs I’m guessing?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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[marksuth] I've added the photo for EU HWC
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[marksuth] and have seemingly doubled it.
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[tantek]2 [Al_Abut] has for previous IndieWebCamps we've setup a separate photos page like https://indieweb.org/2019/Berlin2/Photos for folks to add any and all random photos they took during the event
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aaronpk i think it's fine to upload a ton of photos on events.indieweb.org!
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[tantek]2 Re how to tag people, that's a whole conversation 😂 however see this for recent "how to":
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[tantek]2 What is person tag
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Loqi 👤 A person tag (AKA people tag) is a tag on a post that refers to a specific person by URL, and which the post author explicitly adds as a tagging action, beyond just mentioning a person via hyperlink, h-card, or @-name (autocompleted or not) https://indieweb.org/person-tag
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aaronpk if the page starts getting overwhelmed i can always change the layout of the photos on the page
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[tantek]2 aaronpk unless the newsletter refrains from putting ALL the photos from an event I would say no
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aaronpk the newsletter caps it already
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aaronpk i believe the algorithm it uses was your suggestion even
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[tantek]2 Is that in the docs? Because dumping a giant photo album on people via email is a good way to get people to unsubscribe I would expect
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[tantek]2 I thought we uncorked the photo limits once we stopped syndicating to Twitter
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aaronpk hmm
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aaronpk maybe i am thinking of the code that chooses which photos went to twitter
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[tantek]2 But yes agreed the event photo uploading UI is MUCH better, friendlier, easier, and frankly more likely to encourage alt text
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[tantek]2 I vaguely recall we didn't put any limits on the number of photos going to the newsletter because the format does not have any specific intrinsic limits
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[tantek]2 [marksuth] I got it, de-duped the HWC EU photos
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+44) "🗓 new event or session notes wiki page" (view diff)
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[tantek]2 yes yes Loqi I'm on it
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+65) "HWC EU Notes yesterday! Thanks capjamesg[d]" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2024-12-13.html
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+81) "12/6 FreSH notes thanks artlung!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+231) "12/11 Thanks Bjoern & Sebastian for HWC NUR + notes!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+180) "12/4 Thanks capjamesg[d] for Web Writer's Workshop notes and HWC EU/LDN notes!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+36) "12/10 thanks mattl for /Haunt!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+479) "12/7 Thanks gRegor for archiving all the IWC SD barcamp session notes!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+29) "unwrap today's present since Loqi has declared it final!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+96) "ooh found a couple more wrapped 🎁s, I wonder what they could be? 🧐" (view diff)
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