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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (-178) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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[tantek] going to keep doing this daily for the day before: https://github.com/indieweb/indieweb-chat-archive/pull/67
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gRegor Re: stream.indieweb.org and SEO concerns, we could put a robots noindex on there
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[tantek] that's not a bad idea
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[tantek] we probably don't want stream.indieweb URLs to show up instead of people's actual permalinks
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[tantek] in search results that is
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gregorlove.com edited /Noindex (+998) "clarify dfn, +How to, citation" (view diff)
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gRegor Aside: that note from Google^ seems really weird to me "If the page is blocked by a robots.txt file or the crawler can't access the page, the crawler will never see the noindex rule, and the page can still appear in search results, for example if other pages link to it."
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gRegor like why would it appear in search results if it's in robots.txt?
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gRegor Aside from a crawler ignoring robots.txt
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[tantek] because Google Search indexes things like the words in the URL, and the link text used in hyperlinks to a URL
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[tantek] they index URLs "as is" even before (without) crawling them
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gRegor I would expect that to mean the page *linking* to the robots.txt-blocked page might show up in search, but not the blocked page itself?
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gRegor s/blocked/disallowed/
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[tantek] interesting, the examples I knew of from my site are gone. i.e. pages on my old blog which have noindex but were linked from others. they used to show up in search results as URLs but with zero description.
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[tantek] so they may have changed that gRegor
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gRegor Ah interesting
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gRegor I've only used the robots.txt disallow, no experience with the meta noindex
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[tantek] in my old blog I used separate pages as a way of creating posts that I didn't want indexed
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[aciccarello] Oh no, I think my work blocked the indieweb domain
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[tantek] whoa
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[tantek] and subdomains too? like http://events.indieweb.org?
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[aciccarello] Yeah
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[aciccarello] I know they expanded the zscalar block list recently
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[aciccarello] I wonder if indieweb is categorized as social media
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[tantek] how about indieweb.social ? does that work or was that maybe the cause?
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[aciccarello] That's not available either
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[tantek] I wonder if one led to the blocking of the other
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[aciccarello] Who knows how zscalar defines the block lists