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[social] Since the espresso call I’ve hit a few “Oh, we don’t have that available…” from my host (security things off for, you know security reasons.
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[social] I turn here for a break from sorting out security and the rabbit holes with hitting my head on roots, and here I see the discussion is security.
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /88x31 (-238) "removed and relocated Brainstorming section made redundant by How To section" (view diff)
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /88x31 (+235) "converted raw urls to descriptive link text" (view diff)
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /Instagram (+587) "added article about mass account bans" (view diff)
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ribo.zone edited /32-Bit_Cafe (+936) "/* Events & Challenges */ added missing events to the list" (view diff)
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[schmarty] gross. just got this intrusion from Slack https://media.martymcgui.re/2c/dc/c9/1c/8559af01304b12c8277d513663e9f044985ce160dcfbdcf3be6cc262.png
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[tantek] ugh, I have no idea how to block those
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[jgarber] Review season at Slack, Inc. and every mid-level product manager's got numbers to meet. 😬
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[tantek] is there a name for this sort of nag anti-pattern?
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[tantek] I feel like capturing these screenshots as an anti-pattern would be one good start
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[jgarber] I see a lot of people using, "enshittification," these days.
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[tantek] that's too broad and encompasses lots of things
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[tantek] what is enshittification
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "enshittification" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "enshittification is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] we could have a summary enshittification page with specific indieweb-related aspects, and then links to specific anti-patterns that are associated with the broader problem of enshittification
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[jgarber] Is there a tidy way to say, "Our entire business plan is based on zero interest loans"…? 😂
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[tantek] what is a business plan?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "business plan" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "business plan is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] what is business model
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Loqi business models are ways to offer indieweb products and or services that users pay for both for their own benefit, and in support an open indie web https://indieweb.org/business-model
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[jgarber] hahah neither does anyone else loqi
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[tantek] business plan is /business-model
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Loqi ok
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[jgarber] aww now we have a business plan
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[schmarty] wow, this is now appearing any time a channel's scroll gets out of view: https://media.martymcgui.re/b5/4f/de/be/2c6e5b747fa9c0a70fffc79662d740dcc2f1b411733ba4601bc8a9cd.png
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btrem Ugh.
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artlung.com uploaded /File:2025-06-17-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg "Group Photo https://indieweb.org/File:2025-06-17-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg"
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[artlung] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2025/06/front-end-study-hall-030-RO3uuIOftX24 events/2025-06-17-front-end-study-hall
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cali-iwc Created https://indieweb.org/events/2025-06-17-front-end-study-hall. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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cali.moe created /events/2025-06-17-front-end-study-hall (+3260) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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