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[artlung] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2025/08/front-end-study-hall-034-UzkXwuTEzyuG events/2025-08-13-front-end-study-hall
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# [snarfed] should we consider an AI channel? I get that it is somewhat indieweb relevant, at least narrow specific bits like managing crawlers and whether/how to use LLMs as writing aids...but it's a pretty consistent conversation topic in #indieweb and #indieweb-dev these days, way more than it seems warranted for indieweb relevance, at least to me
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "ethics" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "ethics is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "responsible invention" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "responsible invention is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] not sure that's indieweb specific but maybe worth a Wikipedia page capjamesg? Perhaps similar to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socially_responsible_investing
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# [tantek] [snarfed] gRegor I can see many use-cases for a separate # ai channel, not the least of which is a quarantining of sorts to keep the other "main" channels relatively ai-free. and a place for AI skeptics/abolitionists to either ignore, or place their critiques, instead of that also leaking into other channels. I would lean towards it if only to perhaps marginally improve the positivity of other channels
# [tantek] it's a reasonable proposed solution for that use-case which I tend to lean towards as well. want to add it as a proposed new channel section in https://indieweb.org/discuss#other_new_channels and we can collect some async votes/opinions to see if there's broader support?
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# Loqi elsewhere is a common IndieWeb building block, both on homepages for linking to other aspects of your identity elsewhere, and on posts for linking to copies of your posts elsewhere https://indieweb.org/elsewhere
# [snarfed] done, please vote everyone! https://indieweb.org/discuss#AI
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tantek.com edited /discuss (+429) "/* AI naming */ +1 for clearing up existing channels, and being inclusive/welcoming of more new folks who may want to at least have a discussion to get a better understanding in the context of the indieweb (also useful for folks looking for help blocking scrapers etc.)" (view diff)
# [tantek] [mattl] I believe there are enough positive use-cases (e.g. helping people block scrapers, providing alternative non-LLM tools) that outweigh the negative of having an explicit channel. we could scope the name accordingly. also I expect more and more new folks showing up will be somewhere between AI-curious and AI-positive, and a channel where whoever is there can help walk through critical discussions may be more welcoming than just
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "bockchain" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "bockchain is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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loqi.me created /bockchain (+20) "prompted by [tantek] and redirect added by [tantek]" (view diff)
# Loqi 🐔 chicken is a type of post supported by idnoKnown, and were initially a proof of concept for post-type plugin development, but high levels of chicken interest in the community has driven further development https://indieweb.org/bockchain
# [tantek] jargon << Why avoid/minimize jargon: 2025-04-15 [https://anniemueller.com/posts/how-i-a-non-developer-read-the-tutorial-you-a-developer-wrote-for-me-a-beginner How I, a non-developer, read the tutorial you, a developer, wrote for me, a beginner]
# Loqi ok, I added "Why avoid/minimize jargon: 2025-04-15 [https://anniemueller.com/posts/how-i-a-non-developer-read-the-tutorial-you-a-developer-wrote-for-me-a-beginner How I, a non-developer, read the tutorial you, a developer, wrote for me, a beginner]" to the "See Also" section of /Category:jargon https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=103330&oldid=101565
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