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gRegor woo!
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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Koolala_ Is this channel for indieweb channel meta or indieweb meta? If the former im trying to figure out how to find subchannels but Im really curious about the later.
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aaronpk what is discuss?
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Loqi 💬 Join #indieweb discussions via Discord, Slack, web chat, or IRC, (they are all bridged!) with focused channels for developers, WordPress, and meta topics! https://indieweb.org/discuss
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[tantek] “Don’t be a ‘hi’ guy” (in a company Slack). Love the opening of the first talk on day 2 of btconf. Advice also strongly applies to chat IMO. I want to add this to /discuss
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[tantek] And I kinda want to design an auto-reply from Loqi for such in the future
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[tantek] [jeremycherfas] ++
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[tantek] Hmm, do we need/want all the sub events of IWC BER showing up in the newsletter, or rather on their own? I suggest we either drop sub events from the newsletter or list them all nested under their main event
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[tantek] aaronpk ^ WDYT?
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aaronpk Hm yeah that's a bit much
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aaronpk Probably ok to just skip them for the newsletter
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hacdias Hi! A few days ago I noticed that syndicating to IndieNews failed, and it turns out my website is blocked. In the meanwhile I discovered why: https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieNews/issues/72
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hacdias Sorry for the off-topic post, I don't even remember why I syndicated it, probably by mistake
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Loqi [preview] [hacdias] #72 Blocked webmention for IndieNews
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aaronpk hi hacdias, thanks, I will remove the block
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hacdias Thank you :D
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[Al_Abut] [tantek] what’s a “hi guy”? Someone that drops short messages without context? Or creepy dudes sliding into DMs… 🤮
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[tantek] The former. No context in any context. I’ve called it “presence querying” but “‘hi’ guy” is much shorter and evocative of “reply guy”
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[tantek] What is no hello
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "no hello" yet. Would you like to create it?_ (Or just say "no hello is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] Huh
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[tantek] Looking…
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[tantek] What is a reply guy
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "reply guy" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "reply guy is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[Al_Abut] Interesting. I dunno, maybe I’m missing context myself from the talk but that sounds super transactional, no? Like those memes about every meeting needing a detailed agenda. That works for meetings that could’ve been emails, but what’s the text equivalent of just hanging out and saying “good morning” then?
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[tantek] In contrast, ‘hi’ is kinda passive aggressive because it almost always means “I want your attention but I don’t want to tell you why”
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[tantek] “Good morning” like we have here is harmless because there’s no expectation attached
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aaronpk As someone who just got a "hi" in work slack from someone on our expense team eventually asking for a clarification on an expense report I can confirm the passive aggressiveness of "hi" 😅
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[Al_Abut] Hahaha
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Loqi rofl
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[Al_Abut] Funny, I think it’s a cultural thing. “Good morning” was weird to me in text for ages and I’m slowly getting used to it.
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[Al_Abut] Also: good morning! Trying something new with decaf to start the day instead of the usual jet fuel.
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[tantek] what is no hello
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Loqi No Hello is a philosophy and website encouraging people to “Just ask the question” instead of saying "hi", "yo", "hello", "anyone there?", "you there?" in chat or direct messages (texts or DMs), with several IndieWeb community members encouraging this practice of getting to the point in their own communication protocols https://indieweb.org/no_hello
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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[tantek] ^ looks like a bunch of the session archive pages need dfn markup!
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jeremycherfas No problem saying "Hi, I need to query this report" is there?
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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gRegor I'll work on those
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[tantek] Thank you so much gRegor++
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Loqi gRegor has 39 karma in this channel over the last year (125 in all channels)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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[artlung] what is a browser?
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Loqi web browser is software you can use to view and interact with web pages, like Firefox, Google Chrome, Apple Safari, Microsoft Edge, which members of the IndieWeb community have particular opinions about https://indieweb.org/browser
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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aaronpk better
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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gRegor what is self hosting
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Loqi self hosting is the practice of running the software for your personal website on hardware under your own physical control, typically on a home server, or sometimes refers to only the aspect of running web applications on a (possibly virtual or shared) server under your control but not necessarily in your home https://indieweb.org/self_hosting
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-11-07.html
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