#meta 2025-11-25

2025-11-25 UTC
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /Dreamwidth (+127) "added How Online Privacy Has Been Championed by Dreamwidth" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /heya (+283) "something for the heyas" (view diff)
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[tantek] let's see if that works
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[tantek] what is heya
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Loqi 🎶 Hey-ya, Hey-ya You think you've got your data Oh, you think you've got it But silos got it just might delete it 'til there's nothin' at all We get together at HWC Oh, we get together at IWC 🎶 https://indieweb.org/heya
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[tantek] ^ for the next time someone shows up and just says "heya"
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tantek.com edited /heya (+49) "add the video" (view diff)
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aaronpk What is karaoke
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Loqi 🎙 performance is a post type that indicates a performance of a musical piece, such as performing a song at karaoke https://indieweb.org/karaoke
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tantek.com edited /heya (+20) "linky" (view diff)
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aaronpk we should have an IndieWeb karaoke song library
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[tantek] with alt lyrics fr
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Loqi I agree
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[tantek] next year IWX PDX! can we go back to that karaoke place?
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aaronpk Even better, we can do karaoke on my roof
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[tantek] I feel like every such accidental vandalism is an opportunity for humor
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zacharykai.net edited /User:Zacharykai.net (+27) "/* Zachary Kai */" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /2025-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+7250) "clone from 2024" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2024-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+0) "fix commitment year" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2025-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+567) "wrap some presents!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /next-iwc (-4) "next up SD!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+19) "new and soon, try merging remaining events into community" (view diff)
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[tantek] Gift Calendar 2025 is up!
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[tantek] what is the gift calendar
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Loqi 🎁 Welcome to the IndieWeb Gift Calendar! The 2024 IndieWeb Gift Calendar is the 8th annual group effort to gift (ship) one or more IndieWeb-related thing(s) each day of December that others can use to improve their IndieWeb experience https://indieweb.org/gift_calendar
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tantek.com edited /gift_calendar (+0) "2025 is up" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /IndieWeb_Gift_Calendar (+0) "2025 is up" (view diff)
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[tantek] I think I promised the 2025 gift calendar page to capjamesg in while having espresso
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-popups (+155) "update from https://events.indieweb.org/tag/popup" (view diff)
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capjamesg [tantek]++
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Loqi [tantek] has 33 karma in this channel over the last year (156 in all channels)
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capjamesg Yay!
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Loqi giggles
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capjamesg I should maybe write an IndieWeb related blog post next month.
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Loqi +1
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[tantek] Same 😆
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aaronpk dang, i shipped the meetable updates too early for the gift calendar
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aaronpk guess i'll have to work on some more features
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[tantek] You can plan something for a 12/1 update!
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[tantek] (Has anyone suggest "seasonal" backgrounds yet a la evite etc?)
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aaronpk like per event?
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[tantek] Yeah. There's that other service that does that too. Paperless post maybe?
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[tantek] Would be kinda funny to bring back all the cheesy Web 1.0 evite features
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[tantek] I think gCal used to do something semiautomatic based on keywords in the event name like birthday or games or sports or holiday
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[Al_Abut] I used to do google doodle-style updates to my site all the time and loved seeing it on others.
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[Al_Abut] I remember there was even a pro-usability argument from Jakob Nielsen that theming your site for holidays and other occasions was a fun way to signal that the site was alive and actively maintained.
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aaronpk it still does https://media.aaronpk.com/2025/11/25125847-3888.png
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artlung.com uploaded /File:2025-11-25-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg "Group Photo https://indieweb.org/File:2025-11-25-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg"
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[tantek] lol
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[artlung] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2025/11/front-end-study-hall-041-Thj5qMvYAE2r#photos
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cali.jamesg.blog created /events/2025-11-25-front-end-study-hall (+3492) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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cali-iwc-archive Created https://indieweb.org/events/2025-11-25-front-end-study-hall. Please review the page to ensure the document is correctly formatted and remove any unnecessary text.
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artlung.com edited /events/2025-11-25-front-end-study-hall (-151) "some cleanup" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /Front_End_Study_Hall (+139) "Adding #041 (the crashing FrESH)" (view diff)
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[artlung] *Permitted file types: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, webp, pdf, txt, svg, ai, mp4.* Says the wiki as I try to upload an avif file.
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[artlung] Could we get avif files added to that list? PHP 8 has the support for avif file manipulation which could do sanitization.
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aaronpk what is avif?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "avif" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "avif is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[artlung] avif is https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Media/Guides/Formats/Image_types#avif_image
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /avif (+124) "prompted by aaronpk and dfn added by [artlung]" (view diff)
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[artlung] 😕
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[artlung] I'm adding it as an animated GIF (70k) but the avif is 10k
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artlung.com uploaded /File:animated-corner-shape.gif "animated corner shape https://indieweb.org/File:animated-corner-shape.gif"
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artlung.com edited /events/2025-11-25-front-end-study-hall (+95) "/* Notes */ adding animated superelljpse" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /events/2025-11-25-front-end-study-hall (-7) "/* Participants */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2025-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (-15) "🎁" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+208) "update from events.indieweb.org" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /avif (+225) "dfn, stub sections" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2025-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+755) "🎁✨✨ how to add (and upgrade!) sparkles" (view diff)
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[tantek] since Joe has been encouraging more fun and creativity, I have taken the liberty of adding/defining "sparkles" ✨ to the IndieWeb Gift Calendar for the precogs among us to note days they very likely expect the community (or a particular someone in the community) will provide gift that day.
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[tantek] (all defined in the page itself of course)