#meta 2025-12-29
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osteophage.neocities.org edited /discovery (-88) "added Bukmark Club, RawWeb, and Octothorpes; moved up Indieblog.page; removed some duplicate links; combined some similar sections; moved outdated links; added wiki link to Alternate Search Engines; other misc cleanup" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /IndieForums (+234) "past tense, archive link for dfn, note current site is a phpBB forum with likely spam" (view diff)
# gregorlove.com edited /discovery (+105) "IndieForums is past example, IndieWebForum is current example (unrelated despite similar name)" (view diff)
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Loqi IndieForums (indieforums.net) was an IndieWeb friendly forum that allowed users to post content or replies on their own site and cross post to the forum automatically using Webmention notifications both to the forum itself and to the original posts on other authors' websites https://indieweb.org/IndieForums
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tantek.com edited /IndieForums (+2) "move domain out of dfn so it doesn't link archives to dead domain" (view diff)
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gRegor Sure, though web archive doesn't autolink like that https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2025-12-29#t1766984302289600
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# tantek.com edited /2025-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+100) "27th, chat bridges restored! thanks aaronpk" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /IRC (+7) "comment out split warning since IRC is up and reaching other networks" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /discuss (+9) "comment out split warning since IRC is up and reaching other networks" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /Discord (+8) "comment out split warning since IRC is up and reaching other networks" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /2025-12-indieweb-gift-calendar (+115) "28th Omnibear v2.0.2! thanks aciccarello!" (view diff)
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# adpocalyptic.micro.blog created /User:Adpocalyptic.micro.blog (+1504) "Initial creation of temp placeholder "stub" for account" (view diff)
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# adpocalyptic.micro.blog edited /User:Adpocalyptic.micro.blog (+494) "Added extra section due to lack of talk page for discussion" (view diff)
# adpocalyptic.micro.blog moved /User:Adpocalyptic.micro.blog to /User:Adpocalyptic "Misspelled title: To change username? Not sure if possible/allowed, but making this request prior to manually attempting"
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# [tantek]1 We have an FAQ on this right? If not we probably should
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artlung.com edited /FAQ (+80) "/* How do I set or change my name on the IndieWebCamp wiki */" (view diff)
# [tantek]1 What is a username?
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "username" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "username is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek]1 Aha another opportunity to provide a discovery mechanism
# [tantek]1 What is a Nick
# Loqi nick is short for IRC nickname, a self-assigned username/alias for use on an IRC channel, such as #indieweb on the Libera IRC network https://indieweb.org/nick
# [tantek]1 What is an alias
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "alias" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "alias is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek]1 Alrighty, time to get the laptop out
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# [tantek]1 what is a username
# Loqi A username on the IndieWeb typically refers to a unique series of letters (sometimes also numbers and underscores), without spaces or other punctuation, used to access and often identify an account on someone else’s internet service (like a silo) or your infrastructure (like a domain registrar or a webhost); on the IndieWeb wiki, and across the IndieWeb, your domain is your username https://indieweb.org/username
# tantek.com edited /web_address (+89) "/* Alternatives */ also internet handle (with link)" (view diff)
# osteophage.neocities.org edited /collaborative_blogging (+352) "moved up examples and blogposts; added dates to blogposts; added Blogs don’t need to be so lonely and Blogging collectively" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /web_address (+891) "add other names given to web address to dfn, add criticism of use of "handle" (it's online jargon, or worse)" (view diff)
# andysommer.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Andy-Sommer.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:Andy-Sommer.jpg"
# andysommer.com created /User:Andysommer.com (+1320) "Created page with "= Andy Sommer = {| class="wikitable" style="float:right; margin:0 0 1em 1em; width:280px;" |- ! Photo |- | <!-- IndieWeb wiki usually needs an uploaded file. Upload this image, then use the File: name below. Source image: https://andysommer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/72/2025/06/Andy-Sommer.jpg --> [[File:Andy-Sommer.jpg|thumb]] |260px| |- ! Website |- | '''[https://andysommer.com/ andysommer.com]''' |- ! Elsewhere |- | [https://x.com/heyandysommer X] · [https://www.i..."" (view diff)
# osteophage.neocities.org edited /Spotify (+199) "merging Safety section with Criticism and adding Delete Spotify? Sure, But Don't Just Replace it With Another Subscription" (view diff)
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# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rss club" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "rss club is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "RSS Club" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "RSS Club is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tantek]1 where is that a thing?
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[artlung] RSS Club is the practice of creating [[posts]] that are only available a [[feed]]. Coined by [https://daverupert.com/rss-club/ Dave Rupert]
# [tantek]1 lol
# [tantek]1 uh, that "only available" is false. the posts are also (just clicked on the domain of the first example) available on the web
# [tantek]1 insert Princess Bride meme
# [tantek]1 to-do << More grist for an [[RSS nostalgia]] page: [[RSS Club]] which claims a practice and examples of "only" publishing content in RSS, while in practice at least one (likely nearly all) of the examples given are available on the web, as websites, in HTML, typically called "blogs", thus not "only" in "RSS", unless they are now using RSS even more ambiguously to refer to blogs as well.
# Loqi ok, I added "More grist for an [[RSS nostalgia]] page: [[RSS Club]] which claims a practice and examples of "only" publishing content in RSS, while in practice at least one (likely nearly all) of the examples given are available on the web, as websites, in HTML, typically called "blogs", thus not "only" in "RSS", unless they are now using RSS even more ambiguously to refer to blogs as well." to the "See Also" section of /to-do https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=107127&oldid=106785
# gRegor Spotify << https://annas-archive.org
# Loqi ok, I added "https://annas-archive.org" to the "See Also" section of /Spotify https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=107130&oldid=107119
# [tantek]1 [artlung] the first site I checked was not how you describe. The post are literally in the flow on Adrian's blog https://adrianroselli.com/posts - so there is NOTHING that is "RSS only" in that example
# [tantek]1 since the first example disproved the definition, I gave up (I also noticed several other sites on the list that I recognized and have visited before and are typical blogs with all their content in their HTML so I didn't feel a need to check all of them)
# [tantek]1 it is. literally every post in Adrian's current RSS is on the front page of https://adrianroselli.com/posts — I didn't need to even paginate
# [tantek]1 zero posts "only" in RSS
# [tantek]1 I could do a side-by-side source screenshot of the RSS title elements vs the HTML h2 elements
# [artlung] Dan Q does a nice explanation https://danq.me/2023/07/
# [tantek]1 the brief retort to that post is the classic meme: if not email client then why email client shaped?
# [tantek]1 yeah it feels a bit technofetishist, bordering on plumbing fetishism, which tends to be exclusionary and yes I dislike that
# [tantek]1 none of them have HTML permalinks?
# [tantek]1 so it's my latter concern then, they're using "RSS" to also mean "blogs"
# [tantek]1 which, you're right, is less bad than outright "technofetishist, bordering on plumbing fetishism"
# [tantek]1 people overload jargon, it's inevitable, I'm not going to get worked up about that (and can opt out)
# [tantek]1 the resistance is from the same reasoning why we nudge dev jargon conversations from #indieweb to #indieweb-dev
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# Loqi GoToSocial is an ActivityPub server written in Go and at least one community member runs it on their server https://indieweb.org/GoToSocial
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# artlung.com edited /GoToSocial (+87) "adding link to skippy.net post on using GoToSocial" (view diff)
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tantek.com weird Slack bridge bug: Slack posts in the #indieweb-random channel in particular are not making it across the bridge(s) to Discord (they are from #indieweb-cafe !) cc aaronpk[d]
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# [tantek]1 not on home page or also not on blog?
# tantek.com edited /username (+568) "add explicit IndieWeb wiki username and IndieWeb chat username sections because we have gotten repeated questions and mistaken impressions of both" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /Special:Log/move () "moved [[User:Adpocalyptic]] to [[User:Adpocalyptic.micro.blog]] over redirect: see https://indieweb.org/username#IndieWeb_wiki_username" (view diff)
# tantek.com edited /Special:Log/delete () "Tantek.com deleted redirect [[User:Adpocalyptic.micro.blog]] by overwriting: Deleted to make way for move from "[[User:Adpocalyptic]]"" (view diff)
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