#meta 2026-01-14

2026-01-14 UTC
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gregorlove.com
moved /Peertube to /PeerTube "capitalization"
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gregorlove.com
edited /PeerTube (+165) "Sections: Features, IndieWeb Examples, Other Examples"
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sebthecanadian.ca
created /User:Sebthecanadian.ca (+2847) "Took some stuff from my GitHub and brought it here!"
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gRegor
capjamesg++ for quick fix on Cali!
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Loqi
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osteophage.neocities.org
edited /MySpace (+178) "added criticism of Top 8"
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michaelkupietz.com
edited /User:Michaelkupietz.com (+299) "/* Latest & Greatest* */"
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capjamesg
gRegor++ thanks for creating the Issue!
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Loqi
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Loqi
[[Micro.blog]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro.blog&diff=1332878107&oldid=prev WritesbySummitPress: Created new article on Tyahna Milenn with references
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Loqi
[[Micro.blog]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro.blog&diff=1332879146&oldid=prev WritesbySummitPress: Created new article on Tyahna Milenn with references
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[tantek]
lol TikTok spammer on Wikipedia
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artlung.com
edited /Front_End_Study_Hall (+152) ""Respecting the No-JS Choice: Making Your Site Work for Everyone""
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[tantek]
[artlung] ++
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Loqi
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[artlung]
what is the algorithm?
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Loqi
An algorithm in general is a series of steps used to to automatically perform computations and other operations to produce a result; on the IndieWeb many standards have user-centric algorithms for peer to peer site interactions; social media silos have user-exploitative algorithms for advertising and reinforcing addictive behaviors https://indieweb.org/algorithm
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Loqi
[[Micro.blog]] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Micro.blog&diff=1332920668&oldid=prev Volt4ire: Reverted 2 edits by WritesbySummitPress (talk) to last revision by AnomieBOT
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[tantek]
^ and the TikTok spam has been reverted from the Wikipedia http://Micro.blog article. Under 3hrs. Not bad.
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[artlung]
Chris Gethard said in a video interview "the algorithm is the company store" and that hit me as an apt way to think of it. He was describing comedians needing to post with a certain frequency, or post themselves in skimpy outfits, to keep up the flow of views. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2uZ6C8xhGI
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[tantek]
I feel "the algorithm is the company store" is way too kind. IMO it's more like "the algorithm is like vegas casino design"
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[tantek]
whoa 90-minute video? ๐Ÿคฏ I need a transcript to skim ๐Ÿ˜‚
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[tantek]
lol the "New hire ๐Ÿ‘‹ " tag that Slack puts on new people when they join the Slack
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[aciccarello]
Is there a way to change that text?
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+178) "update from events.indieweb.org"
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[artlung]
Read more on us labor history and โ€œcompany storeโ€ hits just fine. Indentured servitude/ near slavery
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[artlung]
He referenced this documentary which I haven't seen in years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlan_County,_USA
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[tantek]
no I get "company store" metaphor. I still think social media algorithms are more about creating addiction than they are about restricting choice.
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[artlung]
Such a quibbler. His context was of comedians trying to make a living on the platforms. I found the comparison apt.
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[artlung]
Top advice he gave: getting the email addresses of the people who follow you โ€“ โ€“ important advice for resting control of oneโ€™s career.
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[artlung]
Wresting, of course.
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[tantek]
we did used to use this metaphor which while more analogous than "company town", brings other unfortunate implications:
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[tantek]
what is sharecropping
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Loqi
sharecropping is a deprecated metaphor for the practice of primarily or exclusively creating/publishing content on silos as opposed to doing so first (or primarily) on your own site; the IndieWeb community long ago abandoned use of this term, breaking from prior usage, please avoid use of the term as a metaphor for silo-only usage or users. Similarly, the term (digital) sharecroppers was used to refer to those that publish primarily or exclusively on silos https://indieweb.org/sharecropping
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[artlung]
Technofeudalism is another
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[artlung]
Yes, and.
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[tantek]
I like "resting control of one's career" as another perspective on work/life balance ๐Ÿ™‚
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[tantek]
sigh, finally looking up the history of why we abandoned the sharecropping metaphor because somehow at the time we (I) failed to not *why* we deprecated it
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ulhar4409
(i am also curious about why, incidentallyl
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[tantek]
it's in our chat archives
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ulhar4409
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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ulhar4409
not curious enough to dig *that* much i think ๐Ÿ˜…
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[tantek]
citing the links in an edit so there's less digging necessary
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tantek.com
edited /sharecropping (+422) "Criticism, Metaphor sections, see also feudal internet, Wikipedia:sharecropping"
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tantek.com
edited /why (-202) "drop deprecated metaphor"
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[tantek]
aciccarello, I found this page: https://indiewebcamp.slack.com/templates/new-hire-onboarding but couldn't figure out how to change the "new hire" text label itself
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[aciccarello]
Yeah, I looked and it seems undocumented
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kaja.sknebel.net
edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-hwcs (+10) "update from events.indieweb.org"
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[tantek]
next we need sneakernetpad
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loqi.me
created /JPEG_XL (+30) "prompted by gRegor and redirect added by gRegor"
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[tantek]
๐Ÿ˜ฌ
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[tantek]
oh phew it's a redirect