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Loqi IndieNews is an indieweb-specific news aggregator which only accepts submissions via webmention, and is for syndicating posts relevant to the indieweb https://indieweb.org/IndieNews
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[social] I strongly agree with the ban / block of chatgpt(.)site.
# [social] The “human written” would help, but would allow some grey area for those who write and get translation, edits, or clean-up to get their ideas out more clearly. Fully synthetic would be a no.
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# [social] the chatgpt(.)site is a place to get a subdomain and test ChatGPT creating sites and content.
# [social] Is there a list of domains that are blocked?
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[tantek] we're pretty far from AI bots spinning up their own site and posting articles. so far the only experiment into that was a fraud: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moltbook
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artlung.com edited /Decentralized_Web_Summit (+85) "/* See Also */ https://www.internetarchive.eu/2026/07/17/lock-the-web-open-inside-dweb-camp-2026/" (view diff)
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aaronpk not at all: https://clawdrey.com/
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# boramalper I am asking because I am interested in alternatives to services such as IMDb/Letterboxd for movies and series and Goodreads/StoryGraph for books, and while individuals can (micro-)blog their own reviews, aggregating those scores and reviews is a powerful thing, which requires a certain degree of centralisation. For example, I've migrated away from Goodreads to Open Library (by Internet Archive), which has similar social featu
# boramalper Hi! I have a question about IndieWeb community and principles: is IndieWeb solely focused on **individuals** and them owning their identity, data, website, etc OR does IndieWeb involve things like community hosting, cooperatives, and so on too?
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# Loqi indiebookclub is an app for posting books you are reading to your website using Micropub https://indieweb.org/indie_book_club
# [tantek] aaronpk, hah that's an interesting site. I’m curious just how autonomous (independent?) it is. Also saw you were mentioned on the blog home page (in this post https://clawdrey.com/blog/ten-people-quietly-deciding-agentic-identity.html )
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# Loqi osteophage: [tantek] left you a message on 2026-05-31 at 2:59am UTC: this edit seemed to lose a lot of specific Criticisms and the quotes those criticisms were based on, was that intentional? https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Google_Search&diff=111213&oldid=111210
# osteophage boramalper[d]: boramalper, I think you'll find that a lot of discussion under the indie web banner focuses more on personal sites, but speaking for myself I'm definitely interested in discussion of alternative group/collective services as well.
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[capjamesg] Me too!
# [social] [tantek] read the about for https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/sites?surface=app, it is fully synthetic setup from scratch and the content is synthetic beyond the initial prompt.
# [social] A friend has been tracking this sort of thing for start-ups and community groups for setting up full sites and services with minimal effort for and doing it for years. He said the past year it has shifted to mostly fully synthetic setup and content (intended as proof of concept, but get used a as the actual site and services) and there are hundreds of them. The quality on a few of them is okay and not heavy React with no actual DOM, but
# [social] decent HTML, CSS, and light use of JS for straight forward sites.
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# Loqi A silo or web content hosting silo (AKA walled garden), in the context of the IndieWeb, is a centralized web site (like most social media) typically owned by a for-profit corporation that stakes some claim to content contributed to it and restricts access in some way (has walls) https://indieweb.org/silo
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# boramalper [tantek]: tantek: I see, thank you! Do you have any examples of such "aggregators of various types" (except RSS/Atom of course)? I think AT Protocol is one big example of such design (with Personal Data Stores and Relays + AppViews) so I'll look into it more closely also.
# boramalper osteophage[d]: Coyote: Nice to meet you then! I wouldn't want to use IndieWeb's spaces for discussing collective services if that's not really what IndieWeb is about, but I don't know any online spaces dedicated to it either. Please let me know if you know one!
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