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comfortcatmusic.xyz created /User:Comfortcatmusic.xyz (+72) "Created page with "Hi, I'm Cat. I am a musician who is also interested in this kinda stuff."" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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[tantek] wow, time to block iLands subdomains pre-emptively too?
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[capjamesg] I think that’s a good idea.
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jamesg.blog edited /nostalgia () "(-779) /* Articles and posts */ remove comment on the internet you miss never existed; need policy on article responses" (view diff)
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[capjamesg] ai << [[ai;dr]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[ai;dr]]" to the "See Also" section of /ai https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=114171&oldid=114140
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[capjamesg] What is a sidenote?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "sidenote" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "sidenote is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[capjamesg] A sidenote is a note that is left in the margin of a web page and is visually connected to the text to which it relates.
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /sidenote (+145) "prompted by [capjamesg] and dfn added by [capjamesg]" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog edited /footnote (-146) "/* See Also */ move sidenote links to /sidenotes" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog edited /sidenote (+132) "add links from /footnote page" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog edited /sidenote (+368) "add indieweb examples and articles section" (view diff)
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[capjamesg] footnote << [[sidenote]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[sidenote]]" to the "See Also" section of /footnote https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=114176&oldid=114173
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jamesg.blog edited /sidenote (+102) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ add vh example" (view diff)
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[capjamesg] If anyone has sidenote examples on their website or knows of sites with sidenotes, add them to the new sidenotes page!
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[capjamesg] What are sidenotes?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "sidenotes" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "sidenotes is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[capjamesg] sidenotes are /sidenote
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loqi.me created /sidenotes (+21) "prompted by [capjamesg] and redirect added by [capjamesg]" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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[capjamesg] What are aside notes?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "aside notes" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "aside notes is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[capjamesg] aside notes are /sidenote
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /aside_notes (+21) "prompted by [capjamesg] and redirect added by [capjamesg]" (view diff)
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[capjamesg] sidenote << [[footnote]]
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Loqi ok, I added "[[footnote]]" to the "See Also" section of /sidenote https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=114180&oldid=114177
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lesleylai [capjamesg] Maybe also redirect "margin notes" to this page? I know there's a subtle distinction between "side notes" and "margin notes", but I don't think most people cares
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lesleylai.info edited /sidenote (+124) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ Adds Lesley Lai" (view diff)
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kaja.sknebel.net edited /User:Kaja.sknebel.net/upcoming-popups (-165) "update from https://events.indieweb.org/tag/popup" (view diff)
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[capjamesg] lesleylai If there is a distinction, margin notes could be a sub-section on side notes?
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lesleylai [capjamesg] Yeah. Good idea
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lesleylai.info created /side_note (+22) "Redirected page to [[sidenote]]" (view diff)
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lesleylai.info created /side_notes (+22) "Redirected page to [[sidenote]]" (view diff)
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lesleylai.info created /margin_note (+22) "Redirected page to [[sidenote]]" (view diff)
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lesleylai.info created /margin_notes (+22) "Redirected page to [[sidenote]]" (view diff)
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lesleylai.info edited /sidenote (+24) (view diff)
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lesleylai.info edited /sidenote (+625) (view diff)
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jlopes.eu edited /User:Jlopes.eu (-65) (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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jamesg.blog edited /challenge (+275) "/* Other Examples */ add one-off challenges from jamesg.blog" (view diff)
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artlung.com uploaded /File:2026-10-15-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg "Group Photo https://indieweb.org/File:2026-10-15-FrESH-Group-Photo.jpg"
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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artlung.com edited /Front_End_Study_Hall (+278) "/* 2026 */ adding #059 and #060" (view diff)
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[artlung] !archive https://events.indieweb.org/2026/10/front-end-study-hall-060-BZa9ycFijz09
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jamesg.blog created /events/2026-10-15-front-end-study-hall (+6410) "Created event page using IndieWeb events / Etherpad archiver" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /events/2026-10-15-front-end-study-hall (+106) "Infinite Mac, Emulation" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /events/2026-10-15-front-end-study-hall (+65) "/* Infinite Mac, Emulation */" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /events/2026-10-15-front-end-study-hall (+25) "Misc" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /nostalgia (-328) "remove poorly written and hypocritical negative article "internet you miss never existed" not by a community member, need a policy on adding links which don't actually contribute anything positive to indieweb practices or sources of joy, move a related tweet from see also to articles and posts" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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[tantek] [capjamesg] /sidenote looks like a good new page! I noticed it didn't link to /marginalia — were you aware of that previous page? And do you think we should have both pages or have one be a section of the other? (I have not formed an opinion, asking the question from a neutral perspective)
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[capjamesg] I did see marginalia! The implementations of sidenotes I have seen are more plaintext / maybe with a link, rather than being rich in functionality (e.g. comment threads).
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[capjamesg] I think sidenotes may be a subset of marginalia, but one that is sufficiently well explored both technically and from a design perspective that it is worth its own page.
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[capjamesg] Enough so that I could think of two community members with sidenotes off the top of my head, and even more websites.
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[tantek] Makes sense. Perhaps worth some very clear / upfront cross-linking between the two?
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[capjamesg] Good idea.
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jamesg.blog edited /marginalia (+122) "add preface w/ link to sidnotes" (view diff)
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jamesg.blog edited /sidenote (+158) "add link to marginalia after dfn" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /AI_and_the_IndieWeb (+49) "note spam emails were received by members of the community, move see also link to that specific context" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /AI_and_the_IndieWeb (+29) "move a see also link to the context (why the link is relevant on this page), linky iLands" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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tantek.com edited /feed (+105) "restore deleted article title Undo revision [[Special:Diff/113875|113875]] by [[Special:Contributions/Osteophage.neocities.org|Osteophage.neocities.org]] ([[User talk:Osteophage.neocities.org|talk]]), add silo subhead like inside other years" (view diff)
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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[tantek] [capjamesg]++ good hatnotes in both articles!
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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Loqi Generated a new draft of the newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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[tantek] ^ seems like there's a bit too much "Summary" bloat in the IWC BLR events. Like all the "Agenda: ..." details belong in Description, not Summary
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[tantek] I can't help but wonder if this is a UI bug rather than user error
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[tantek] as in the user thinks they're doing the right thing, pasting into giant text field, when they should only be putting a line or two of text, and then putting the rest in description
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[tantek] like a Meetable UI bug that is
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[tantek] anyway it's a bit late now to fix (unless people are here and ready to take a look and quickly discuss / agree on some edits) but we should (1) figure out the right thing (guidelines?), (2) explicitly note that such events may be community edited to conform accordingly
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aaronpk hm yeah
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aaronpk i could definitely add more guidance, but they clearly pasted in more HTML than fits in the box https://media.aaronpk.com/2026/10/16144254-1424.png
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aaronpk i'm just moving the whole thing to the description since the start of it is "Agenda"
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[tantek] they did, however I still think that's the consequence of the Summary box being 5.5 lines tall
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[tantek] yeah it's on every one of the IWC BLR events
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[tantek] go for it
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[tantek] My Meetable suggested fix would be 2 line max height on Summary box, perhaps with a character count (non-blocking) that suggests it be kept to 300 chars or less? or pick another suitable "summary" maxlen number
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[tantek] 📎 🙂 you're pasting a big block of HTML into the Summary which is intended for a short text summary with minimal styling, shall I move your block of HTML to the Description?
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[tantek] ^ that emoji pairing should display a smiling Clippy
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aaronpk yeah, maybe even blocking <p> tags in the summary? or all html?
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Loqi Generated the final version of the newsletter! This will be sent out at 3pm Pacific time. https://indieweb.org/this-week/2026-10-16.html
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aaronpk better
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/2026/10/16145431-3148.png
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aaronpk https://media.aaronpk.com/2026/10/16145544-8089.png
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gRegor nice, yeah limiting p or heading tags sounds smart
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aaronpk 👍 and to be clear it doesn't actually stop you from submitting, just displays this warning
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gRegor aside, on the diff page https://events.indieweb.org/event/1175/history when I click the " IndieWebClub BLR" next to the arrow icon, get a 404: https://events.indieweb.org/2026/11/indiewebclub-blr-
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aaronpk odd
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aaronpk oh, it's because it's a template event
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gRegor what's that?
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aaronpk recurring
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gRegor ah
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aaronpk fixed thx
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gregorlove.com edited /consent_screen (+169) "/* Examples */ +micro.blog" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /consent_screen (+182) "/* micro.blog */ note about unsupported scopes" (view diff)
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