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osteophage.neocities.org edited /relevant_to_the_IndieWeb_wiki (+442) "request for link criteria; please weigh in" (view diff)
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[capjamesg] Osteophage is looking for feedback and ideas on a policy to help us decide what links are relevant to the IndieWeb wiki: https://indieweb.org/relevant_to_the_IndieWeb_wiki#Link_Criteria
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[capjamesg] This will help us ensure that everyone knows that what links are best to add to (or leave out of) wiki pages.
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[tantek] So that's a misrepresentation of why their link was removed. See the edit message. The problems with the link go beyond anything to do with IndieWeb relevance
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[tantek] At this point I don't think they are acting in good faith, by misrepresenting an edit summary that is clear for anyone to look up on the history of a page
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[tantek] from /nostalgia edit history: "need a policy on adding links which don't actually contribute anything positive to indieweb practices or sources of joy" <-- note not having to do with "indieweb relevance"
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[capjamesg] I suggested that we open this discussion positively so that we have a place we can point people to say “here’s our policy on relevant links.”
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[tantek] putting on a page unrelated to the reason it was removed is not a positive move
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[tantek] so I'm going to undo it
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[capjamesg] I said to put it there as a brainstorm for a general, wiki-wide policy, not as a place to discuss this specific issue.
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[tantek] this has nothing to do with indieweb relevance or lack thereof
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[tantek] so it doesn't belong on that page
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[capjamesg] The opening sentence specifically says “content are relevant to the IndieWeb wiki.” And the contributor is asking for “explicit policy on wiki standards or criteria for links.”
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[capjamesg] *opening sentence of the wiki page
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[tantek] the reasons it was removed has nothing to do with relevance to the IndieWeb
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[capjamesg] They don’t say that. They say “wiki standards” on a page about “content are relevant to the IndieWeb wiki.”
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[tantek] no they do
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[tantek] literally in the page "Re: an article on web nostalgia being removed from the page for [[nostalgia]],"
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[tantek] so they are talking about the reasons it was removed
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[tantek] which have nothing to do with "indieweb relevance"
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[tantek] it's mischaracterization of why the link was removed. since you suggested that page, I'll note that their error was made in good faith
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tantek.com edited /relevant_to_the_IndieWeb_wiki (-444) ""Re: an article on web nostalgia being removed from the page for [[nostalgia]]" the reasons given in the link removal edit https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=nostalgia&diff=114199&oldid=114170 had nothing to do with IndieWeb relevance, undoing this good faith error of mischaracterizing the link removal edit (see actual edit history for real reason)" (view diff)
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[tantek] wikify << to-do: need policy on article responses, e.g. inline commentary/response/criticism of a linked article on wiki, of which we have many, on many pages, where a faulty article was linked on the wiki, and underneath it, community members have explicitly noted the faults in the article. Many "Criticism" sections contain such article links and inline responses for example.
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Loqi ok, I added "to-do: need policy on article responses, e.g. inline commentary/response/criticism of a linked article on wiki, of which we have many, on many pages, where a faulty article was linked on the wiki, and underneath it, community members have explicitly noted the faults in the article. Many "Criticism" sections contain such article links and inline responses for example." to the "See Also" section of /wikifying https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=114274&oldid=114018
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[tantek] wikify << to-do: need a policy on SHOULD NOT add links which don't actually contribute anything positive to indieweb practices or sources of joy on articles about positive indieweb expressions and sources of joy (in contrast to articles about [[silos]] which criticism helps people avoid, or bad practices like [[antipatterns]], or harmful / exploitative technologies such as [[cryptocurrency]], documented to help community members
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[tantek] minimize and avoid harms
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Loqi ok, I added "to-do: need a policy on SHOULD NOT add links which don't actually contribute anything positive to indieweb practices or sources of joy on articles about positive indieweb expressions and sources of joy (in contrast to articles about [[silos]] which criticism helps people avoid, or bad practices like [[antipatterns]], or harmful / exploitative technologies such as [[cryptocurrency]], documented to help community members" to the "See Also" section of /wikifying https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=114275&oldid=114274
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tantek.com edited /wikifying (+25) "finish Loqi addition to page" (view diff)