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gregorlove.com edited /2014/SF/IndieAuth (+71) "cats, SA" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /typecast (+4) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /2014/SF/apps (+71) "cats, SA" (view diff)
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[artlung] what is a vlog
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "vlog" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "vlog is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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gRegor going to mark these cat edits as minor to reduce noise
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[artlung] vlog is vlogging
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Loqi ok
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loqi.me created /vlog (+44) "prompted by [artlung] and dfn added by [artlung]" (view diff)
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[artlung] hmmm. i wanted that to be a redirect.
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[artlung] oh totally gregor. sorry
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gRegor not a complaint, you're fine :)
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artlung.com edited /vlog (-22) "Redirected page to [[vlogging]]" (view diff)
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[artlung] what is a vlog?
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Loqi vlogging is blogging using video as a medium https://indieweb.org/vlog
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artlung.com edited /2018/Baltimore/interactivetranscripts (+19) (view diff)
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[tantek] cat edits as minor makes sense to me gRegor 👍
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gRegor Thoughts on removing etherpad.mozilla.org links since that's been dead a while?
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artlung.com edited /Skype (+39) "past tense for definition" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /IMDb (+20) (view diff)
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[tantek] gRegor, if it's in the context of "Archived from: ...etherpad mozilla link" then I think wrapping them in <nowiki> </nowiki> is fine
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gRegor Ok
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artlung.com edited /Cineville (+19) (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /Letterboxd (+19) (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /2025/Düsseldorf/moviesbooks (+19) (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /live_video (+20) (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /live_streaming (+20) (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /Periscope (+55) "category, note about shutdown" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /Periscope (+185) "change how to communicate shutdown" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /spoiler_post (+157) "adding spoiler link" (view diff)
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gRegor Ah, here's an example of the city-category thing, a redlink to https://indieweb.org/Category:Baltimore with 12 pages in it. So could make it a redirect to /Baltimore and avoid editing all those pages.
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gRegor Is that what you meant, [tantek]?
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[tantek] I think that's a reasonable path yes
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gregorlove.com edited /Baltimore (+41) "/* Homebrew Website Club */ first meetup" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com created /Category:Baltimore (+23) "r" (view diff)
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gRegor what is Category:Baltimore
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Loqi 🦀 Baltimore is a city in the US state of Maryland that hosted Homebrew Website Club meetups starting 2016-09-21 once a month or more, and an IndieWebCamp in 2018 https://indieweb.org/Category%3ABaltimore
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gRegor Ah interesting, if you add the `redirect=no` you can still see pages in that cat: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Baltimore&redirect=no
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gRegor That link is also found when you follow a redirect, at the top "(Redirected from Category:Baltimore)
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gRegor "
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[artlung] are you also then adding an include of Category:Baltimore - and thus the pages?
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gregorlove.com created /Category:Amsterdam (+23) "r" (view diff)
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gRegor On /Baltimore? I can, sure
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[artlung] well - does that follow from that? considering whether that makes sense for /music to include Category:Music
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[tantek] how do you redirect and include a cat page? I don't think that works?
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gRegor it does with categorytree. just a sec
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[tantek] I believe you want the categorytree element: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CategoryTree#The_%3Ccategorytree%3E_tag
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[tantek] ah you're already there, very good
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gregorlove.com edited /Amsterdam (+88) "Other Pages with categorytree (example)" (view diff)
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gRegor https://indieweb.org/Amsterdam#Other_Pages
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gRegor I think with broader topics like music it doesn't make as much sense, maybe a table like on /WordPress and similar pages
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gRegor But only if it's really needed
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artlung.com edited /scrobble (+85) "adding category tree for music to scrobble (which is the destination for /music)" (view diff)
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[artlung] yeah I just added it to https://indieweb.org/scrobble and I'm not crazy about it
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gregorlove.com edited /Amsterdam (+101) "/* Other Pages */ +instruction" (view diff)
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artlung.com edited /scrobble (-86) "removing related pages" (view diff)
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gRegor How does that look? https://indieweb.org/Amsterdam#Other_Pages
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gRegor in practice I think most of these will remain static, not many pages added to them
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gregorlove.com edited /Baltimore (+188) "Other Pages" (view diff)
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[artlung] i think that's good.
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[artlung] Maybe a copyedit to... _To add a pages to this list, add `[[Category: Amsterdam]]` to its content._
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[artlung] or similar.
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[artlung] but fine as is
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gRegor what is analytics
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Loqi analytics is the collection, analysis and reporting of a websites traffic https://indieweb.org/analytics
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[artlung] I'm not sure I looked at all 5000+ pages on the wiki today but I looked at a lot
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gRegor haha
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[artlung] Also [tantek] if you get a notion I feel like `[[Category:Antipattern]]` would give you some pleasure to see the results of.
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gRegor Knocked down a handful of redlinks on https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:Categories&offset=&limit=500
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gRegor Think I'm done for the day
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[artlung] SAN DIEGO POWER
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[tantek] [artlung] plenty of red-links and other gardening to do on the existing /antipatterns page. Not sure if we need a category yet? Maybe some day.
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[artlung] yeah, I noticed there are a few and thought it was a nice category.
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[artlung] and there's a potential category like Blogging which might be too large to be a legit category
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[artlung] but categories for the sake of categories is not the goal. i want to point at good stuff with a category. And Video, Feed, Writing, and Music fit the bill for me
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artlung.com edited /blogroll (+29) "/* Joe Crawford - changed how my blogroll works */" (view diff)
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[tantek] agreed, categories for the sake of categorization are not helpful. You have something there with a curational intent, a path to focused disocvery
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[tantek] discovery*
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[tantek] I was also thinking something like blogs and/or blogging could be a category to help the folks looking for that old nostalgia hit
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lifeofpablo.com edited /Planning (+17) "/* New York City */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Planning (-186) "move Cambridge MA to Restart a Recent City to help keep it recent without expectations, move New Haven, Oxford, Utrecht to Past Cities (no organizers from those cities seen in chat in 1y+)" (view diff)
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Loqi Just generated the first draft of this week's newsletter! https://indieweb.org/this-week/2025-05-30.html I'll generate a draft again tomorrow, so please add to it before then! https://indieweb.org/this-week#How_to
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tantek.com edited /Bangalore (-156) "fix dfn for, rm SD copypasta" (view diff)
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