#microformats 2011-06-25
2011-06-25 UTC
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sandbags singpolyma: is there significance to the # at the end of that vcard NS URL?
# sandbags looking at the list of namespaces supported by the RSS validator I see some have # and some don't
# sandbags seems a bit odd to me to have a # in there
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singpolyma I just copied the NS URI from the spec :)
# singpolyma so I assume it needs the #
# sandbags singpolyma: fair enough
# sandbags my recollection was that # in a URL was never actually sent to a server
# sandbags and so, in principle, is not actually part of the locator
# singpolyma true, but for NS the URI isn't about fetching anything
# singpolyma it's just a string
# sandbags agreed
# sandbags i just found it unusual to put such a thing in there
# sandbags but as you say
# sandbags treat is as an opaque string and move on with your life ;-)
# manu1 The "#" is significant for machines that process the VCard markup.
# manu1 For example:
# manu1 the VCard URL is this: http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/ns#
# manu1 and the property for "formatted name" is this: fn
# manu1 The full URL for VCard, for the formatted name property is this: http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/ns#fn
# manu1 If you didn't put the "#" in there, then the "fn" URL would become this: http://www.w3.org/2006/vcard/nsfn (note the last bit of the URL - it doesn't exist)
# manu1 That is, if a machine tried to go to the 2nd (incorrect) URL, a machine would get a 404 and wouldn't be able to discover anything more about the "fn" property.
# manu1 Does that make sense?
# sandbags there is a URL per property?
# sandbags i see
# sandbags yes that makes sense (although given this is based on inference I think you could as easily infer the '#' but there we go)
# sandbags thanks
# manu1 sandbags, there are cases where you can't infer it - for example, the latest Dublin Core vocabulary is: http://purl.org/dc/terms/ - which results in the following url for the "title" property: http://purl.org/dc/terms/title
# manu1 automatically adding a "#" would blow up in that case. I say this understanding that it would have been nice if there were one way to create vocabulary URLs.
# sandbags ah yes i see
# sandbags yes it's always afterwards that we're left to contemplate what could have been ;-)
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