#microformats 2011-10-24

2011-10-24 UTC
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/iamadtaylor] @onepixelout worth noting that .hentry is primarily there as a useful microformat hook… agree it's pointless as a post hook!
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/YashinNoMeisou] YES!!! HCARD!!! RT @mitany2: エッチカード!!!
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/Reine_Claude] Dit weekend bezig geweest met #microformats voor een van mijn websites
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/neogeografen] længe udsigter for open data DK så kan du læse ny gratis bog om #openstreetmap og selv lære at sætte frie data i spil http://t.co/eJFALthk
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/neogeografen] Tyrkisk Ushahidi platform sat op for Van området http://t.co/f1aDngX6 - hjælp via OSM se http://t.co/XkQmYYKd
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/JAWEL_] making some proper email signatures, using #microformats #hcard
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/JAWEL_] too bad most mail clients do fr^& sh^t with my hcard, anyway… \m/ neat code all the way \m/ @mchaste
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/melcsie] ~ Péntek, az én napom..holnap kedd szal ba**hatom. xDD
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/zeldman] Goal of Semantic Web is to have a web of data. BUT how to accomplish? W3C: RDF. Microformats: Humans first, machines second. #aea
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/joshlasdin] Microformats Principle: Humans first, machines second. That's something I can get behind. #aea #microformats
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/seanbiefeld] interesting for web designers/developers http://t.co/z7PqkUg5
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ChiefRA
shouldn't be microformats enough for Google to show rich snippets for your site?
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ChiefRA
icroformats, microdata and so on and so forth aren't they all rich snippets?
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tantek
in answer to the first question, yes, Google supports some set of microformats for rendering rich snippets, and for those types of data (people, events, recipes, reviews etc.), microformats are enough
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ChiefRA
there are other rich snippets supported by Google which are not included in microformats markup yet?
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tantek
in answer to the second question, microformats, microdata, and so on (various versions of RDFa) are all methods of adding semantics to (X)HTML pages.
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tantek
"rich snippets" is a presentational term, and refers to "richer" (more information, sometimes with graphics) "snippets" (bits of summary text in search result items)
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tantek
I don't know of any rich snippets supported by Google which are not included in microformats markup yet - though there are some rich snippets (e.g. search for "MLB") which don't appear to come from any kind of semantic markup at all (having viewed the source of mlb.com and tried to figure it out)
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tantek
I should say, I don't know of any *generic* (across sites) rich snippets supported by Google which are not included in microformats markup yet - as obviously the MLB example shows they appear to be doing some degree of custom per-site rich snippets.
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Loqi
agreed.
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tantek
Thank you Loqi.
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tantek
(searching for MLB shows recent sports scores and upcoming sporting events with links to times/tickets)
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ChiefRA
I was asking you what's MBL
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ChiefRA
MLB*
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ChiefRA
but thgen, I searched for it
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ChiefRA
:))))
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ChiefRA
then*
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ChiefRA
my initial Q was this one:
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ChiefRA
I don';t need to markup differently to show up with rich snippets in Google, other than microformats.
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ChiefRA
microformats will suffice?
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ChiefRA
:)
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/ubax] Goal of Semantic Web is to have a web of data. BUT how to accomplish? W3C: RDF. Microformats: Humans first, machines second. #aea
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tantek
ChiefRA - it sounds like it - it's probably a case by case question for the types of data you're trying to markup.
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tantek
Google started showing rich snippets in the first place because there were so many pages marked up with specific microformats.
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tantek
So if there is a new type of data you want to markup for which there are no microformats, help develop a microformat for it, (per the microformats process), and if enough other sites adopt it, then Google and others may show it too.
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ChiefRA
ok that sounds very good.
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tantek
They're still very statistically based, they'll support anything which is statistically significant with high data quality because it is in their best interest to do so.
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ChiefRA
I did propose a development for a new microformats element but so far I don;t think there are many other websites: http://microformats.org/wiki/coverage-area-examples
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ChiefRA
which have this problem.
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ChiefRA
for Real Estate websites, the coverage area of expertise is important.
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tantek
you've gathered examples, which is a very important first step
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ChiefRA
I would like to do more than that. But what ?
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tantek
have you had any luck researching to see if there are any existing formats (in XML or other syntaxes to represent coverage areas?
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tantek
at least by doing web searches for such types of formats etc.
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tantek
it's possible there are no previous formats, but it's always worth looking first to see what people may have tried before
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tantek
even if there are no formats previously, it would help to document how you tried to search for them and the fact that you couldn't find any - and write that up on the related wiki page: microformats.org/wiki/coverage-area-formats
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ChiefRA
Should I say there that I've checked every common examples and view source codes for HTML pages like Facebook and so on?
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/kidehen] Semantic Web Tribes: http://t.co/UEIfD9G0 . #LinkedData #SemanticWeb #Microdata #Microformats #RDFa #RDF
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/rdfabra] http://t.co/q6ejSGyA Employing Microformats & Structured Data For Enhanced Search Engine Visibility - Search Engine Land
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/leobeckshake] Employing Microformats & Structured Data For Enhanced Search Engine Visibility http://t.co/liEG0zbY
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/ExpertoWP] HTML5 y microformats para pragmatistas http://t.co/OxT1Pmss
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Loqi
[http://twitter.com/ExpertoWP] HTML5 y microformats para pragmatistas: http://t.co/OxT1Pmss
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