#microformats 2011-12-01

2011-12-01 UTC
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tantek edited /microformats-2-faq (+1507) "why are microformats 2 properties prefixed" (view diff)
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/YashinNoMeisou] ちなみにHCARD飲みは行きませんすみません（二次会あるなら検討します）D飲みも一次会の途中か二次会から参加予定。D10-11飲みは…微妙ｗ ていうか大規模飲み会多すぎなんだよ！
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/y_yukkie] それはある RT @YashinNoMeisou: ちなみにHCARD飲みは行きませんすみません（二次会あるなら検討します）D飲みも一次会の途中か二次会から参加予定。D10-11飲みは…微妙ｗ ていうか大規模飲み会多すぎなんだよ！
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tantek created /rel-me-faq (+986) "stub with a simple question that wasn't apparent from the main rel-me page apparently" (view diff)
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tantek edited /microformats-2-faq (+211) "/* why are microformats 2 properties prefixed */ fix plural, note example of e-entry-content for hAtom" (view diff)
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tantek edited /microformats-2-prefixes (+266) "/* prefixes for future consideration */ incorporate duration into dt- parsing since HTML5 time element now supports duration." (view diff)
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/fletchy] @ewanr Yes, hReview compliant and it can run server side or client side.
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Phae Has anyone done any side-by-side comparisons of microformat mark-up against the schema-org equivalents anywhere? I have some, but not sure if there's prior art to reference for accuracy.
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/Sam_Robson] @WebCreationUK http://t.co/sumpcAQl
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adsim edited /hcard-examples-in-wild (+409) "/* new and uncategorized examples */" (view diff)
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tantek Phae - I don't think anyone's published any
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tantek I do know that the schemaorg markup tends to be much lengthier since it does involve a bunch of additional attributes
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tantek (not unlike RDFa in that regard)
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tantek the irony is that microformats-2 markup is actually *smaller* in common cases (than even current microformats markup)
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tantek so anyone complaining about code bloat should be all over using microformats-2 in preference to alternatives
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Phae it's okay
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Phae it was for: http://fberriman.com/2011/12/01/schema-org-microformats-and-more-science-please/
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Phae and yes, it is lengthy
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tantek Phae, would dl/dt/dd be more appropriate for the Telephone: … Email: portion of the markup?
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Phae oh, i guess so.
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tantek also, lol at repeating the class=hcard vs vcard common err (which is why we're fixing this in microformats-2)
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Phae i keep forgetting that dl is allowed to be something useful these days
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tantek should we just formalize allowing "hcard" as the root class name? if we ourselves make this mistake...
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Phae oh. sorry. uggggh.
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tantek for hCard 1.1 that is
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Phae i knew i'd typo stuff
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tantek no not your fault - it's a *common* error
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Phae i think maybe so
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Phae yeah
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tantek I think many permissive parsers allow it
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tantek I just thought it was ironic
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Phae corrects.
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tantek btw in terms of microdata FAQ
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tantek itemscope is how microdata indicates "this is a root element/object"
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tantek as opposed to a list of specific microformats root class names in microformats 1
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tantek and as opposed to the simpler/shorter "h-" prefix in microformats-2
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Phae yeah, i got that it was for showing root element
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Phae but couldn't work out why you needed that, or why you wouldn't prefer something that explicitly says *what* it is.
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tantek right - it's not obvious at all from an authoring perspective
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tantek unless you're a programmer type person who associate such things with the magic word "scope"
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Phae yeah
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Phae oh, i get why it's easier from a pro grammatical sense. but they're second class citizens to me.
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tantek sure
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Phae oh, thanks spellcheck for that space there.
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tantek turn that off - it's horrible for IRC
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tantek did someone actually recommend a DRY violation as *easier* in your comments?
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Phae yeah
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tantek because @prefix and rdf and turtle are things web designers are either familiar with or would love to learn about right?
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Phae heh
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tantek how do people get so out of touch with web designers/authors?
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Phae well, by not being one
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Phae the cleaners are in the office already. this suggests i should go home now. be back in a while.
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tantek ok ttyl
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csarven tantek Perhaps not all "web designers/authors" are equal. That's why there are hundred different Web-roles nowadays. I don't think it is fare to generalize every worker to be competent at every frontend-ish-stuff.
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csarven s/fare/fair
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Loqi csarven meant to say: tantek Perhaps not all "web designers/authors" are equal. That's why there are hundred different Web-roles nowadays. I don't think it is fair to generalize every worker to be competent at every frontend-ish-stuff.
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csarven Wow, that's cool!
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Phae huh, i didn't know Loqi did that
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Phae interesting: http://fberriman.com/2011/12/01/schema-org-microformats-and-more-science-please/#comment-21921
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