#microformats 2012-10-25

2012-10-25 UTC
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tantek
edited /microformats2-parsing (+168) "/* parsing for implied properties */ imply photo from object data as well as img src (seems reasonable for extensibility, compatbility, author freedom of element choice for embedding an image)"
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tantek
edited /microformats2-implied-properties (+367) "object[data] works wherever img[src] does."
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tantek
edited /microformats2-parsing (+52) "/* parsing for implied properties */ object root also works for implying photo"
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Loqi
barnabywalters: tantek left you a message on 10/24 at 2:26pm: 'value' is what the p-location is (which is a property) - there is no implied "name" property on a property.
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Loqi
barnabywalters: tantek left you a message on 10/24 at 2:30pm: look at the 2nd example here for how implied name properties work on nested microformats: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats-2#h-card_org_h-card
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barnabywalters
edited /microformats2 (+1) "/* simple microformats 2 examples */ Made JSON valid for Mitchell Baker example by adding comma after the note property"
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barnabywalters
should there be a requirement to test/JSONLint the canonical JSON examples before posting them on the wiki?
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barnabywalters
there are a whole load which are broken (currently fixing)
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barnabywalters
edited /microformats2 (+18) "/* combining microformats */ Fixed a load more broken JSON"
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tantek
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tantek
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tantek
barnabywalters - thanks for fixing the broken JSON examples.
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tantek
what's the best way to test them?
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tantek
ah, very nice
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barnabywalters
it doesn’t produce *really* helpful error messages, but it does let you know if there’s a problem
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tantek
that's good enough for our purposes
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barnabywalters
actually, the fact that there were broken examples exposed a bug in phpunit, so it’s quite handy :)
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tantek
barnabywalters, hah - that's funny. (re: phpunit bug)
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barnabywalters
I’m currently adding support for classic microformats to php-mf2
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tantek
oh cool - did the equivalency tables help in the spec?
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tantek
hopefully that will be sufficient
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barnabywalters
tantek: yep, that’s what I’m basing it off
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barnabywalters
I’m just trying a find/replace of classic => new properties and seeing how far that gets me
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tantek
barnabywalters - did you see the key point about *not* using the old class names if you see microformats2 equivalents?
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tantek
just want to make sure that you have a check for that
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tantek
because the idea is that if someone has *both*, they likely want new parsers to pick up only the microformats2 markup.
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tantek
seemed safer and more predictable that way for publishers.
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barnabywalters
tantek: sure. as the extent of classic support is essentially a find/replace, it shouldn’t make any difference whether or not the input has classic, µf2 or both
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barnabywalters
but if it causes problems or I actively start changing content to fit µf2, I’ll add in a proper check
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tantek
well a general find/replace would do the wrong thing in the "both" case
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tantek
you could see mixing of things like microformats2 root class names and classic microformats property names
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tantek
which could lead to *actual* false positives from other class names people use (the collisions people had with things like "summary" "description" etc.)
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barnabywalters
tantek: it could also lead to false-negatives
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barnabywalters
e.g. I’ve seen people using .h-* for things other than µf2
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barnabywalters
(I need to find the source again and add it to the wiki)
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tantek
haven't seen any - that was part of the reason I picked the prefixes we have
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barnabywalters
this looks like a case for Blekko’s grep the web ;)
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barnabywalters
if I can’t find the example, that is
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tantek
and only if it's widespread. if it's just a site/page or two, they're unlikely to notice anything or have anything break.
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barnabywalters
I think the example was in a talk given by a CSS thought leader on best CSS practises
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tantek
examples in talks don't count :)
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tantek
if it's not being served by a live URL, then it's not a real world example
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barnabywalters
if he’s teaching it, I would hope he’s using it himself!
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barnabywalters
practise what you preach/dogfooding and all
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tantek
edited /microformats2 (-34) "no longer an experiment, we have a parser implementation of the canonical JSON"
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tantek
moved / to /Special:Log/move "[[json]] moved to [[old-json-serializations]]: Now out of date and obsoleted by canonical JSON as defined in [[microformats2]]"
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tantek
edited /json (+567) "draft"
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