#microformats 2013-01-03

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Loqi anyway, it's a value that was dropped prior to HTML4, and already listed in the "dropped" section of this page
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Loqi looks like a spam site. Undo revision 49452 by [[Special:Contributions/Lwagon|Lwagon]] ([[User talk:Lwagon|Talk]])
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iSRAELi hello
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iSRAELi :D
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JonathanNeal What would you guys say is the best "for dummies" document about micro formats? I'd really love to add more information about accessibility and useful publishing semantics @ https://github.com/jonathantneal/website-checklist - this is a checkist I'm assembling of thoughts and questions I ask myself before building a website.
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tantek JonathanNeal, Emily Lewis's book is excellent.
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tantek http://www.amazon.com/Microformats-Made-Simple-Emily-Lewis/dp/0321660773
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KevinMarks so is this FTC consent decree an attack on hReview? http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2013/01/google.shtm
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KevinMarks 'The FTC investigated allegations that Google misappropriated content, such as user reviews and star ratings, from competing websites in order to improve its own vertical offerings, such as Google Local and Google Shopping. Some FTC Commissioners were concerned that this conduct might chill firms’ incentives to innovate on the Internet.'
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JonathanNeal thanks tantek, though I would hope to use resources that could be freely redistributed.
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JonathanNeal I get weary of accidentally plagiarizing a copyrighted work.
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tantek Emily Lewis also blogs a lot about microformats on her own site - and I'm sure if you ask nicely you can excerpt fairly large quotes.
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tantek she's great to work with.
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JonathanNeal Nifty. Thanks. I'll look her up on the internets.
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JonathanNeal http://emilylewisdesign.com/ tada
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tantek KevinMarks - that's just a critique of one application of hReview, not the format.
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tantek JonathanNeal - yes :)
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iSRAELi ?
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iSRAELi well
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iSRAELi i just hate how they investigate google
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iSRAELi google is not the UN
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iSRAELi its an organisation
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iSRAELi if the people dont want, they can use bing or whatever
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iSRAELi no one MUST use google
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iSRAELi if they remove the stars and microformats support ill kill myself
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iSRAELi :\
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iSRAELi hehe
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iSRAELi i can add like 20 completed hcard clients
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iSRAELi :)
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tantek KevinMarks, will be interesting to see if any of the search requirements affect the #schema oligopoly / antitrust behavior.
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iSRAELi in the hcard in the wild
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JonathanNeal how would that ftc consent effect microformats at all?
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tantek JonathanNeal - it wouldn't because microformats totally open.
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tantek as opposed to #schema, which has questionable patent wording, and is run by a search oligopoly
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iSRAELi yes, but websites will stop using microformats beacuse they dont support google
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iSRAELi ...
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tantek Google supports microformats because so many websites already do use them.
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tantek And they'll continue to do so, just like they support HTML.
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iSRAELi i know, but if this claim will make them stop preffering the,
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iSRAELi them
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tantek microformats are part of the empirical web platform that's actually in use in the wild, so its in everyone's incentive to support them.
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iSRAELi so companies like where i work wont waste their employers time on this
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tantek they never claimed to "prefer" them
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tantek or any rich snippets
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tantek it was always just about display
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tantek not ranking
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tantek iSRAELi, the point is, people supported/published microformats BEFORE google supported them, and even if google stops, people will continue publishing microformats. there are plenty of other uses.
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tantek search engines are late adopters.
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tantek / followers
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iSRAELi i know, and i hope microformats will be here in html10!
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iSRAELi but for example, my boss will notallow me "spending" half of my work-day optimizing websites with microformats
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iSRAELi ..
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tantek iSRAELi - then we should make it much easier for you to do so with tools etc., so it takes you less time :)
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iSRAELi hehe
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iSRAELi no its fine!
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tantek :D
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iSRAELi let me "waste" my time
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iSRAELi :D
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iSRAELi i cant really use tools cause its already built websites
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iSRAELi im just editing them very specificly
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iSRAELi how about defining google-map url
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iSRAELi and youtube
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iSRAELi :P
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@newtron anybody seen a good vcard/hcard implementation w/ markdown?
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iSRAELi i dislike using schema, but they support it :\
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tantek iSRAELi - if you find areas where we need to improve microformats (to use instead of schema), definitely let the channel/community know!
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iSRAELi i do
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iSRAELi youtube information (justlike schema shows)
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iSRAELi and google maps identifier (url identifier for the iframe)
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iSRAELi i wish i had your type of knowledge so i could create pages and brainstorming
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tantek youtube information? like a "video" for the item instead of just a "photo"?
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tantek Google doesn't seem to do anything with the "google maps identifier (url identifier for the iframe)" - so until they do, it doesn't make sense to add it.
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iSRAELi they do
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iSRAELi i can showyou example, one second
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iSRAELi wait i have 100 clients
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iSRAELi i implanted on 1-2
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iSRAELi i just cant find the specific webpage
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iSRAELi anyway
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iSRAELi webmaster tools rich snippet can identify it
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iSRAELi :S
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iSRAELi <meta itemprop="duration" content="T1M33S" />
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iSRAELi <meta itemprop="url" content ="foo-fighters-rope.html">
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iSRAELi and google actually recognize it via webmaster tools
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iSRAELi so it does for the map
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iSRAELi http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets?url=http%3A%2F%2Fartprints.co.il%2Fcontact.html&html=
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iSRAELi check out the last one
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iSRAELi it says
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iSRAELi map: and the link
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iSRAELi shows exactyly the same for the video
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@mrgris RT @gregoire: Beau boulot @xtof_fr :) Microformats2: la prochaine étape (r)évolutionnaire vers un web de données http://christopheducamp.com/blog/2012/12/30/microformats2/ #m ...
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