#microformats 2013-01-21

2013-01-21 UTC
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aaronpk - was rachel able to login?
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oops wrong channel
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ChiefRA
Loqi !tell tantek test
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ChiefRA
uhm how was that formula?
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ChiefRA
anyway
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ChiefRA
tantek who developed Loqi's script to monitor all the changes on a website and report them here? I would like to "borrow" it is it's freeware or discuss alternatives
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Loqi
MONITOR ALL THE CHANGES http://loqi.me/6Fy
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tantek
ChiefRA - aaronpk is Loqi's author.
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Loqi
is done
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ChiefRA
thanks
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gjones
Latest beta of http://microformat2-node.jit.su/ is live has wide format support now
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gjones
@tantek if you have a moment can you check the expected test output on http://microformat2-node.jit.su/hreview.html is right for me. Mainly the parsing of 'item'
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tantek
welcome eschnou!
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barnabywalters
hey eschnou
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barnabywalters
so, for testing your µf output, try my http://waterpigs.co.uk/php-mf2
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barnabywalters
at the mo you have to copy the source in but I’m adding find-by-url as we speak
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tantek
great news barnabywalters!
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barnabywalters
as for representing note content with h-entry/hAtom, I think most of us are either ignoring entry-title or just using the content as the title as well
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barnabywalters
e.g. my note class string is this:
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barnabywalters
p-name entry-title p-summary summary e-content as-object-type-note
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barnabywalters
to cover all bases ;)
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tantek
eschnou - Barnaby's excellent uf2 tester and other validators are list here: http://microformats.org/wiki/validators
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eschnou
awesome ! thanks !
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eschnou
barnabywalters, your script is not discovering a single entry... I guess I got something wrong somewhere :-)
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barnabywalters
eschnou: did you turn on convert classic µf?
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barnabywalters
the parser behind it is my µf2 parser, it only has basic support for classic microformats and you have to explicitly turn it on
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tantek
barnabywalters - why not have them on by default?
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eschnou
yeah, it finds my hcard but not my entries.
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barnabywalters
eschnou: I just tried, you’re right. Not sure what is causing this
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eschnou
but now I'm lost.. I've added classes like hentry, entry-title, etc.
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tantek
also - do you think you might have a chance to add support for the other uf2 backward compat vocabularies? hopefully they're just in a table right?http://microformats.org/wiki/uf2#v2_vocabularies
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eschnou
and you just mentionned p-name etc...
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eschnou
where are these p- coming from ?
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tantek
eschnou - you probably want to add both the classic hAtom markup (more tools currently support) and h-entry (microformats2, more future proof)
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eschnou
oki
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barnabywalters
eschnou: btw, you’re duplicating <a> elements in the external links section — an <a> can go around an <img> and text at the same time
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eschnou
barnabywalters, which spec is the as-object-type-note coming from ?
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eschnou
thanks for the <a> mention, I'll try to change it and see if it does not break because of CSS.
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barnabywalters
eschnou: not specced officially yet, it came from discussions I think tantek led at the FSW summit earlier this year
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barnabywalters
about activitystreams in µf
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eschnou
cool !
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barnabywalters
I am also using u-as-downstream-duplicate, actually — documenting
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tantek
barnabywalters - on permalink pages at least, you could use rel="alternate" to link to downstream duplicates
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eschnou
thanks barnabywalters !
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tantek
wonders if a u-alternate would be useful
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barnabywalters
tantek: I did consider that, I’ll add it
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barnabywalters
well, adding u-alternate would make using parsed µf2 data easier, but it’s kinda redundant if rel is provided
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barnabywalters
besides, the downstream duplicates aren’t really alternatives, they’re different, lower-quality content. it’s a different semantic IMO
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eschnou
barnabywalters, I've just added µf v2 (h-entry) and now your parser works
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eschnou
i guess you only check for h-entry and were not looking for hentry
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barnabywalters
eschnou: that’s great, I’m just fixing the classic µf BC now
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barnabywalters
oh btw I added all the other compatibility tables so once I *have* fixed this bug, php-mf2 has a decent understanding of most existing microformats
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eschnou
cool !
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eschnou
and I guess from the name that it is a php lib ?
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barnabywalters
eschnou: github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/
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eschnou
looking at the php-mf2 lib examples
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eschnou
awesome !
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barnabywalters
I’ve published quite a bit of my indieweb-related code, too. The full system coming soon ;)
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eschnou
yeah, really nice, didn't know there was a indieweb github account.
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barnabywalters
eschnou: so php-mf2 picks up your classic µf markup if the single quoted attributes are changed to double quoted attributes.
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barnabywalters
I think this is a DOMDocument bug/"feature"
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eschnou
barnabywalters, cool, should be straightforward to fix. Will do that !
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barnabywalters
I have a question about µf value-class datetime parsing as detailed here: http://microformats.org/wiki/value-class-pattern#Date_and_time_parsing
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barnabywalters
it states: if the value has both a specific ISO8601 date and a specific time, use those and stop looking for "value" elements
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barnabywalters
exactly what form should this check take? ISO8601 is fairly vague and permissive, so we can’t just check for the letter T
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tantek
reads
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tantek
barnabywalters, re: alternatives, they’re different, lower-quality content - alternatives often are.
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tantek
it's still relevant
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tantek
and it's ok to be redundant/replacing 'rel' in this regard
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tantek
because meshing rel with our root/property microformats hasn't really worked well with authors
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tantek
rel is good for page level stuff
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tantek
microformats for chunks of data within
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tantek
barnabywalters re: ISO8601 date and a specific time, see the HTML5 <time> parsing spec on this.
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barnabywalters
tantek: will do. that’s enough for tonight, but I want to get php-mf2 passing more of gjones’s µf test suite
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barnabywalters
goodnight all
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Loqi
night night
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tantek
barnabywalters - goodnight!
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tantek
and well done
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tantek
edited /activity-streams (+190) "update brainstorm for microformats2, and reflects actual IndieWeb use in the wild"
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