#microformats 2013-04-21

2013-04-21 UTC
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bretolius IS there a good explaination or editorial as to the decision to include microdata into the html5 spec, rather than microformats or rdfa?
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bretolius reading the http://diveintohtml5.info/extensibility.html , he seems to indicate that microdata is the evolution of rdfa and microformats
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bretolius but microformats seems to be what is mostly seen out in the wild, + mf2 is still being developed where there is minimal talk about md
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bretolius mostly i just want clarity
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aaronpk tantek: i'm trying to add mf2 to my h-entry's, getting a bit stuck on the geo properties
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aaronpk i'm not sure what to put in p-geo, or whether p-latitude and p-longitude are supposed to be direct descendants of the h-entry or are supposed to be nested in the p-geo
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aaronpk also how can I show the place name but leave the lat/lng in invisible properties?
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tantek aaronpk - best to start with a specific example with the visible data you want to mark up
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tantek URL?
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aaronpk http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2013/04/19/1/travel
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aaronpk currently I have "Portland, OR, USA" visible, with the lat/lng invisible
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tantek ooh - I see you put the lat/long in the title of the abbr - not the best thing for listenability
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tantek is the lat long actually correctly precise?
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tantek if so - you could incorporate it into a gmaps link
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tantek or a gmaps embedding with <object> tag, and then inside the object tag you can have the fallback plain text lat/long (which would only be visible to folks if/when the <object> didn't render
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aaronpk hmm
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aaronpk maybe I'll just drop the lat/lng for now
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aaronpk that was based on mf1 markup
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tantek yeah - we can do better
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tantek for the "Portland, OR, USA" - you could (should) mark that up inside an h-adr
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tantek like this
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tantek <span class="h-adr"><span class="p-locality">Portland</span>, <abbr class="p-region" title="Oregon">OR</abbr>, <abbr class="p-country-name" title="United Stats of America">USA</abbr></span>
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aaronpk ooh that would be nicer
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tantek that way at least your h-entry will automatically have an h-adr child in the JSON and that could be used implicitly until we figure out how to best extend h-entry
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tantek to represent the multiple notions of location that are present in posts
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aaronpk unfortunately right now I am not storing the locality/region/country separately. also I don't get "Oregon" and "United States of America" back from the geocoder, just the abbreviations
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tantek ah, do you at least know if they are or aren't abbreviations even if you don't get back the expansions?
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aaronpk not currently :(
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tantek ok
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tantek you can parse out the components by looking for the first 2 commas as delimiters right?
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tantek since city names don't have commas, nor do states
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aaronpk yes I suppose so, assuming I am always in the US
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tantek even outside
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aaronpk sometimes the region or country may not be present
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aaronpk in which case I won't know which is which
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tantek that's fine, you can detect that
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aaronpk probably I hsould store it better
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tantek because there would be one fewer comma
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aaronpk since ultimately I do get locality/region/country back from the geocoder
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aaronpk tantek: yes but I won't know if the second element is a region or a country
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tantek look it up in a country list to check isCountry()
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tantek that's a trivial string array lookup
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aaronpk that's a hack! i should just store it better
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tantek !isCountry then region
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tantek it's a trivial 5 min hack :)
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aaronpk heh
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tantek and likely a reusable function building block
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aaronpk here's an example http://pk.dev/notes/2012/12/01/3/kingsofcode
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aaronpk oops
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tantek <span class="h-adr"><span class="p-locality">Portland</span>, <span class="p-region">OR</span>, <span class="p-country-name">USA</span></span>
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aaronpk http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2012/12/01/3/kingsofcode
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tantek interesting - no country there
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tantek just locality and region
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aaronpk yea, not sure why it doesn't know