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qirtaiba Hello microformats experts, I am trying to format my blog with hentry, and it needs to have an hcard for my name. But I don't want to have my name on my blog. Is there any legal way of just *linking* to an hcard from the page rather than including it on the page?
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qirtaiba I can't just hide it with CSS either because - well, maybe this is a too obscure edge case, but it needs to render the same on non-CSS browsers
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qirtaiba You'll understand if you see the site, it's http://jere.my - it renders like that on lynx even
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qirtaiba for those of you who even remember what lynx is
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tommorris you don't have to use your legal name in the hCard
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tommorris you can use a nickname
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tommorris you might want to ask tantek about whether you need an hCard in your hAtom. don't know enough about hAtom to say for sure.
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barnabywalters qirtaiba: pretty much everything is optional in microformats, so there’s no requirement that your h-entries have p-author h-cards
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qirtaiba Thanks that's helpful
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barnabywalters qirtaiba: microformats are for visible data. There are ways you could add an h-card hidden even to HTML, but that’s dark data and not recommended
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qirtaiba There is a reference to "Nearest In Parent"
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qirtaiba seems that I can just put my name somewhere on the page and use that for my entries without putting my name in each entry
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qirtaiba so I figure I'll do that
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barnabywalters qirtaiba: yep, if you want to have a page-level h-card instead of one on each entry, that’s fine too
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qirtaiba Done, will test it now
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barnabywalters there is a way of defining a mf once then including it using the element ID, but IIRC only one parser supports it
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qirtaiba uh, is there something like a validator?
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barnabywalters I might have a go at adding it to php-mf2
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barnabywalters http://microformats.org/wiki/validators
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qirtaiba thanks
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barnabywalters qirtaiba: and if you want to add the include-pattern in anticipation that more parsers will use it, the docs are here: http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern
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qirtaiba Only if I can't get it to work the other way, it's severely messed up my page so far, oops :-)
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@tiopelaox Hoy tenimoh consoméhcard
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ChiefRA a nice weekend guys and girls ;)
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tommorris indeed.
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Alice Hi All! I have a silly question. If I create a markup for any microformat, but render it inside of the block with display:none, will the crawler get data from it anyway?
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hober :(
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hober ideally, you'd mark up your visible data with microformats
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hober and not create a redundant piece of markup that you hide
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Alice Yes, I understand that ideally I need to reuse the markup, but what if I can't? Will the simple duplication work?
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Alice The concern is that I have a design of a page, that does not expose as much data as I can put into the microformat. Overwhelming the design with text is not a good option, so I'm looking for a bypass.
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Alice does hiding of mircoformst's segments prevents the crawler from getting the data from it?
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Alice I really tried to google it, but could not find an answer yet... :(
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hober well, "does not expose as much" implies that you want to mark up the visible bits with the microformat
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hober and then inside that markup, also include some additional bits that you hide
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hober but you shouldn't duplicate the bits that are visible
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hober sweet, summoning tantek worked
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hober tantek: any comments on the above?
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Alice hober: many thanks for the explanation :-* It's good to know there is someone who is ready to help
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hober np
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tantek Alice, search engines / crawlers tend to frown on display:none content in general
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tantek the short answer is, if some content doesn't fit into your visible design, then it's not worth microformatting it
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tantek because visible content is the only content you can reasonably trust/expect to be correct / up to date
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tantek invisible content tends to rot, get out of date, fail to be checked etc.
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tantek so don't waste any time publishing invisible content - it's going to die anyway
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tantek Alice, what did you try to search for when you say you "tried to google it"?
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tantek here's the FAQ on the subject: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q._Given_that_Google_now_looks_at_hidden_content_as_potential_spam.2C_will_invisible_microformats_be_considered_spam.3F
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Alice oops... silly me... asked a question without checking for FAQ
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Alice tantek: Thank you very much for detailed explanation and the link :-* I supposed crawlers do not like display:none. Will mark up only visible content. Thanks again guys!
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tantek *find
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tantek Alice, no problem at all! FAQs are often hard to fine.
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tantek but if you can look in your history to see what you googled for, I can try to make the FAQ more discoverable
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Alice tantek: I was searching for "microformats hidden markup" and "microformats hidden". FAQ showed in the results, but the description under the link did not contain "hidden", so I assumed it is a false match.
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