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# Garbee Would there be any benefits from doing MicroFormats for documentation?
# Garbee i.e. Markup and entire document page on WPD so bots looking around can easily find things (even though we offer an API to get the same info.)
# Garbee ah cool.
# Garbee I'm toying with a demo of a possible new backend to get off MediaWiki. Throwing in some MicroFormats for giggles atm.
# Garbee Yup. I'm thinking someone could search for "css text-align" or possible even "text-align" and get some Knowledge Graph data presented (courtesy of WPD ofc.)
# Garbee yea... I'm focusing right now on presenting a good alternative to MediaWiki and hopefully getting us to shift-off (at which point I'd officially present MicroFormats in the construction of the new site.)
# Garbee If my idea fails, then I'll just present MicroFormats anyways.
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barnabywalters Garbee: what is WPD?
# Garbee Web Platform Docs
# Garbee http://www.webplatform.org
# Garbee Documentation for web developers for building for the front-end web.
# barnabywalters ah, brilliant!
# Garbee MediaWiki is crap and we have only complained since launch.
# Garbee I'm making a real demo to try and persuade people to let the community (namely myself atm) build something better for us.
# barnabywalters yes it would be fab to see microformats in use there
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# Rob-Peters Hi, new here please excuse any mistakes :-) I'd like to ask about getting a link to a site of a client removed from the "in the wild" page, but not sure who to contact?
# Garbee Rob-Peters, What is the site?
# barnabywalters shut up Loqi
# Rob-Peters Sorry :-) its the link to IO Garden Buildings http://www.iobuild.co.uk/
# Garbee um, do you know what page is linking to it? I can't seem to find it through search.
# Rob-Peters Sure, I found it on this link: http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=hcard-examples-in-wild&curid=2673&diff=44248&oldid=44242 it links to http://www.iobuild.co.uk/ and http://www.iobuild.co.uk/about_us/
# Garbee ah, google loves me.
# Rob-Peters I think perhaps the link gets duplicated in revisions and the anchor text is looking a bit over optimised
# Garbee kk, I'll remove the link real fast.
# Rob-Peters That's very kind of you, really appreciate the help :-)
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# Garbee Done!
# Garbee Is there anything else we could help you with Rob-Peters?
# Rob-Peters Wow, thanks, good old IRC, didn't expect to get help so quickly :-)
# Rob-Peters It's just the anchor text, with each revision it was repeated and made the incoming link look over optimised, I think it was setup by my clients old SEO
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tantek Rob-Peters, perhaps consider adding hCard to the iobuild contact page? http://www.iobuild.co.uk/contact_us/
# Rob-Peters yes there were two, the about page one was 404
# Rob-Peters Certainly will, I'm using WordPress so should be quite easy, will get on it. thanks
# Garbee tantek, np. Simple enough task. ;) Plus I'm waiting for some files to upload still...
# Rob-Peters OK great thanks, I think an old SEO added this link but unfortunately used one of their keywords as the anchor to try and get better ranking :-) but a nice example with a non keyword would be great I'm sure
# Garbee looks at the getting-started wiki page while I wait.
# Rob-Peters Yes, thanks for all of your help :-)
# Garbee Enjoy your day Rob. Let us know if you ever need help with MicroFormats. They are a great (and relatively simple) addition to sites.
# Rob-Peters Yes, I've been reading more at your site, I need to learn more, looks really interesting and a great addition
# Rob-Peters Just before I got, one last question, do you know if the link will go from the revisions also - sorry forgot to ask
# Garbee revisions, no. It stays in the history. But the history shouldn't be indexed.
# Garbee As of right now if Google or Bing were to re-index the wiki, they wouldn't see the link. And any casual browsers wouldn't either. Just actual humans looking through the history of that page.
# Rob-Peters ah ok, great - such quick help, thanks so much! :-) hope you have a great day and I'll be sure to learn more and add to sites from now on :-)
# Garbee You're welcome. Enjoy your day!
# Rob-Peters You too :-) Bye
# Garbee tantek, Should we ask why people want links removed? I agree it is an odd request, but I also feel if someone asks we should just do it.
# Garbee The only problem is if someone does it maliciously to get a legitimate link of a competitors site taken down to lower their ranking... Which is an edge-case I think.
# Garbee ah ok. I really wanted to ask why, but decided to just do it since it is an easy rollback if it was a mistake.
# barnabywalters I think asking is probably safe as a) they can sign up and remove links (right?) and b) if we ask and they give no answer there’s something fishy going on
# Garbee I think if someone is *asking* for a link to be removed, then they are either un-practiced in wiki's or they are being really sneaky about being malicious (by getting my name on the revision vs theirs.)
# Garbee Me being me, I tend to sway towards just helping and dealing with issues later. It isn't like this is a secure enviornment....
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# Garbee Although, this does spark a thought...
# Garbee With the AbuseFilters, should we make it so if you're first or second edit is deleting a link the edit is blocked?
# Garbee Although, this could get in the way of people like Rob-Peters who knows how to edit a wiki, it would mean that people can't just go removing links around the wiki for no real reason.
# Garbee kk.
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# Rob-Peters Garbee - thanks again for all of your help earlier, much appreciated, wondered it might be possible to ask another question?
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# Rob-Peters Thanks :-) really appreciate the help
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# Rob-Peters I've been looking more into the client's issue and it looks as though Google has indexed each mention in the revisions as a different link, is there anyway to remove the link from the old revisions? I'll explain why as it might be interesting :-) - basically the client's old consultant used a target keyword for the anchor text and as it's repeated through the archive it's created hundreds of links with that anchor text so
# Rob-Peters hope that makes sense :-)
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# Rob-Peters sorry got disconnected
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# Rob-Peters thanks for the reply, yes thought it was strange, could email a set of links if it was of interest, but guessed it might be hard to change. Would there be any way to keep them but change the anchor text to something generic? (sorry if silly question :-)
# Rob-Peters Sure, and I guess if that was solved in due course it would solve the issue as then there wouldn't be indexed copies of the links. Glad to help, I have a list of links from Google Webmaster Tools, could I email that?
# Rob-Peters ok sure, I'll find a couple of links now and post them shortly
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