#microformats 2013-09-23
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dgilperez edited /hcard-supporting-user-profiles (+258) "/* All services with hCard profiles */" (view diff)
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@JustSolvedFmts Just Solved! HCalendar http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/HCalendar (twitter.com/_/status/381958787739189248)
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@YamagishiFuuka @emmeroods I ' MALGHUIGSO FUCKNIG HCARD BECAUSE IR MERMEBREd????? SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG SWEARS, WHICH IS VERY CONTROVERSIAL OR SOMETHING OMFG (twitter.com/_/status/382000112307691520)
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Loqi adactio: tantek left you a message 1 week ago: barnabywalters, gjones, tommorris I didn't have a chance to finish incorporating etherpad microformats2parsing notes, please take a look, try to add some to the wiki pages: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/microformats2parsing
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# Harzilein hmm
# Harzilein hi
# Harzilein i wonder if there is some semantic thingy to discover "types" of parts of uris
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barnabywalters greetings Harzilein
# barnabywalters what specifically are you trying to do? can you give an example?
# Harzilein i.e. if i'm below some part http://subdomain.organization.org/section2/, i'd like to discover that siblings of the /section/ part of the path, by their position, are all of type "section"
# Harzilein s,the /section/,the /section2/,
# barnabywalters if other URLs at that level are listed, you could fetch+parse them and see if they contain microformats of the same type
# barnabywalters there are also some rel values for this sort of thing
# Harzilein i want to use this for tagging. currently i could tag tld::org, subdomain::subdomain, organization, section2, eventually i'd like to be able to tag it as tld::org, organization::organization, site::subdomain, section::section2
# barnabywalters have a look in http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-values
# Harzilein (those "faceted" tags are intended to resemble debtags btw)
# barnabywalters debtags?
# barnabywalters generally within a microformat, p-category is used to list tags or categories
# barnabywalters okay, so they’re key-value pairs wrapped up as tags
# Harzilein no, there could be multiple values for one facet
# barnabywalters so you can have key::value1, key::value2?
# Harzilein but in my case there would usually be one facet for each value derived from url parts
# Harzilein yes
# Harzilein currently i would just go with calling every first level subdirectory a section, but i'd really like to refine this
# Harzilein especially the ability of not having to hardcode their class as "section" would be valuable
# barnabywalters Harzilein: what is the data you’re publishing? what do you want people to be able to do with it?
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# Harzilein barnabywalters: i don't want to publish those tags (thought the reference to a tagging microformat is interesting anyway), i just want some way to utilize existign semantic anything to have a lightweight way to turn the usual information about a bookmarked page (title, description, url) into faceted tags, so i don't have to spend as much time categorizing bookmarks. i understand some of the facets are rather artificial, but ...
# Harzilein ... i'd prefer arbitrary tagging facets over just doing, say, word splitting on urls and suggesting those as tags
# barnabywalters so you want to automatically convert structured data into these faceted tags?
# barnabywalters these faceted tags look a lot like microformats properties
# barnabywalters so you could parse a page for microformats, then pick out some common properties (like 'name') and make tags out of those
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# Harzilein no, basically i want to take a bunch of "parts" from a url, then use microformat/semantic-whatever discovery to augment them with facets. so first they are unstructured, and the user agent should attempt to make them usable in some menu hierarchy, say "by-tld -> ..." "by-site -> ..." (normalization for the sites might be left to the user to do, i'd end up with "normalized-site -> blog" or "normalized-site -> forums"
# Harzilein oh well, maybe i should write an article explaining this
# Harzilein the current practice i employ in my bookmarks is quite mechanical, and could use more facets, like the mentioned "section"
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@BarnabyWalters @appdotnet @voidfiles #microformats2 markup on ADN post permalink pages is great but markup for reply posts could… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4SBMtj/ (twitter.com/_/status/382261527887478784)
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