#microformats 2013-10-29

2013-10-29 UTC
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cweiske Hi. Do you have hreview examples for ISBN and EANs instead of normal URLs?
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cweiske you really should link to h-hreview from hReview
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cweiske is there a profile URL for h-review?
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@LilaWonderbra Reviews: Author HReview Plugin: Google’s current algorithm tends to favor sites with reviews, especially sites... http://graywolfseo.com/reviews/author-hreview-plugin/ (twitter.com/_/status/395152054911389696)
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barnabywalters pushes php-mf2 v0.2.1, a bugfix for some classic microformats parsing issues
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tantek nice
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barnabywalters edited /validators (+409) "/* specific microformats validators */ added indiewebify.me validators for h-card and h-entry" (view diff)
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tantek woot!
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Loqi woot
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tantek barnabywalters - you could also add them to the format pages themselves
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tantek e.g. http://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry#Validating
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barnabywalters doing
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tantek nice
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barnabywalters ah, they’re actually locked
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barnabywalters as opposed to emotionally locked ;)
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tantek edited /Special:Log/protect () "changed protection level for "[[h-entry]]": unprotect to broaden contributions/edits from community [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]" (view diff)
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tantek edited /Special:Log/protect () "changed protection level for "[[h-card]]": unprotect to broaden contributions/edits from community [edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop]" (view diff)
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barnabywalters YAY
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barnabywalters uh, weird — now I can edit the page but not that section
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barnabywalters oh it’s in a template — {{h-spec-section-validating}}
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barnabywalters which is locked
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tantek barnabywalters - but put the format-specific stuff *outside* the template
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barnabywalters edited /h-entry (+202) "added indiewebify.me validator" (view diff)
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barnabywalters edited /h-card (+178) "added indiewebify.me validator" (view diff)
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tantek edited /Template:h-spec-section-validating (+7) "/* Validating */ make it generic without header" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-entry (+16) "explicit validating section, specific validator first, then generic template" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-adr (+15) "explicit validating section" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-card (+16) "explicit validating section, specific validator first, then generic template" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-event (+15) "explicit validating section" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-geo (+15) "explicit validating section" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-item (+14) "explicit validating section" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-product (+15) "explicit validating section" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-recipe (+15) "explicit validating section" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-resume (+15) "explicit validating section" (view diff)
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tantek edited /h-review (+15) "explicit validating section" (view diff)
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tantek ok barnabywalters - all the other specs are now explicitly ready for vocabulary-specific validation/linting :)
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barnabywalters tantek: great!
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barnabywalters edited /microformats2-parsing-issues (+237) "/* issues */ stubbed form input parsing rules" (view diff)
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barnabywalters tantek: ^^^
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barnabywalters was just discussing this with brennan — not sure if it’s widely enough used to be useful
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barnabywalters but interesting nonetheless
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tantek barnabywalters - there's been exploration of that in the past in microformats
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barnabywalters briansuda mentioned that he implemented it in h2vx
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tantek barnabywalters - last time we talked about this, this is what I wrote up: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-parsing-brainstorming#input_element_handling
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tantek that's for input/text area on their own like that
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tantek and then there's the semantic of root class names on <form> elements, which has some interesting potential: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-input
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barnabywalters aaronpk did some brainstorming on this recently too
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barnabywalters http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub
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tantek edited /microformats2-parsing-issues (+217) "/* How to interpret mf2 classnames on form inputs */ note proposed resolution and related form microformats thinking" (view diff)
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tantek yeah I took a brief look at micropub
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tantek I'm not sure about approaching from the protocol side first
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tantek I'd rather approach it from the form markup side first to see if that makes sense
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tantek if it does, we can figure out a protocol accordingly
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barnabywalters sounds like shaners is also doing similar things
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barnabywalters https://twitter.com/veganstraightedge/status/394967460987682817
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@veganstraightedge HTML idea:
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tantek except that's a programmer tool, not a user publishing use-case
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tantek I mean, still interesting
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tantek but not as interesting as the micropub use-case
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tantek ok braindumped my thoughts for now, can be expanded later: http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub#Alternative_form_markup_first
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aaronpk tantek: good thinking. actually most of my thoughts around micropub were based on it being in an HTML form anyway
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aaronpk probably a good idae to literally approach it as a form first
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tantek aaronpk - not trying to question the good work you've done on micropub
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tantek I just wanted to make sure that we were also checking the form-first approach to make sure it meshed well
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk actually, forgot I had written this note:
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aaronpk "At a most basic level, you should be able to write an HTML form and set the form action to your own endpoint and use it to post to your site."
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tantek I think we got accidentally lucky with webmention being so form-friendly
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tantek so now we should design that way explicitly
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tantek is my thinking
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tantek none of sandeep's original work on webmention mentioned forms or UI for this at all
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tantek he just happened to intuitively choose what worked out well
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@PancakeBreasts Fucking pricks. If you can win the match wit hcards on the board, do it, dont sit there and draw shit (twitter.com/_/status/395242444343631872)
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KevinMarks this sounds promising for noterlive, if it is to post to your own site as well as twitter
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@SMIDIT Heeft u een #wordpress website en wilt u meer bezoekers vanuit de SERPS? http://www.smid-it.nl/author-hreview-zoekverkeer-verbeteren-door-opvallende-opmaak-in-de-serps/ (twitter.com/_/status/395308374247878656)
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