#microformats 2013-11-06

2013-11-06 UTC
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@kekceruza microformats2 & HTML5: The Next Evolutionary Step For Web Data http://www.youtube.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/397957350004252673)
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@snarfed_org @kevinmarks @t @jdunck hey guys! i'm looking now too. any chance you've heard of a python microformats2 parser since mentioning this? (twitter.com/_/status/398111848190341121)
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snarfed morning all! i'm looking for a python mf2 parser…does anyone know of one?
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snarfed http://microformats.org/wiki/parsers#Python has a couple mf1 parsers, but nothing for mf2
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snarfed worst case, http://microformats.org/wiki/Microtron claims it "can easily be extended with new formats without modifying the source," so i could look into that
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snarfed but i'd love to use an existing one
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ChiefRA snarfed there are mf2 parsers
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ChiefRA hold on a sec, while I give you a link.
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snarfed thanks! surprised google didn't rank them high enough in my search
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snarfed but no matter
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ChiefRA they're new, Google just starts to "understand" them.
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ChiefRA it takes a while until "lasy" Google gets up-to-date with the latest trends :)
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snarfed huh. maybe.
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barnabywalters ChiefRA: why aren’t python mf2 parsers mentioned on the wiki?
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ChiefRA hmm I don't know.
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snarfed probably not intentional
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ChiefRA can you give me a link to such a parser?
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ChiefRA snarfed may need one.
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ChiefRA snarfed in the mean time, take a look here: http://microformats.org/wiki/parsers#microformats2_parsers
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snarfed thanks! i already have, those look good but they're not python
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snarfed (who's on first?! :P)
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snarfed if we don't know that one exists, that's fine, i was just checking before i start coding
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barnabywalters ChiefRA: I don’t think there are any python mf2 parsers
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snarfed fair enough
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ChiefRA snarfed can you make one ? :)
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ChiefRA for the sake of humanity?
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snarfed do you know much about http://microformats.org/wiki/Microtron ? it claims it can be extended to support new formats w/o much (any) codea
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snarfed lol. not sure about humanity, but yes, i'll write one if i can't find one
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ChiefRA :)) ok hang around here on a regular basis, tantek or aaronpk might be able to provide you with extended help about it.
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ChiefRA tantek is not on atm, but he will join. I'll leave him a message to contact you when he comes on.
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snarfed no need, i see them in person here and there, i've mentioned it before. they're supportive but they pay more attention to php
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barnabywalters snarfed: glancing over the code for microtron it looks like it’d be tricky to add support for all the important things in mf2
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snarfed igh
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snarfed er sigh
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barnabywalters combining mf, generic parsing, implied properties
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tommorris snarfed: nobody has written a Python mf2 parser yet. do feel free to start one. ;)
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tommorris snarfed: alternatively, you can run the Node parser and call it via HTTP
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snarfed yeah, or any parser
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snarfed all sad conclusions, i'm fine with python, but not really the right person to write a parser
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snarfed no matter though. i'll make something work
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snarfed thanks all!
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ChiefRA you're welcome.
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ChiefRA !tell tantek snarfed came with a great idea of making a Pyton mf2 parser. Anyone tryed that before?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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barnabywalters snarfed: I didn’t think I was the right person to write a parser either, but I ended up making it because it needed to exist and no-one else was going to do it in a hurry :)
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@BarnabyWalters Anyone wanting to build a #microformats2 parser in #python? I’m up for helping out, drop into IRC and mention it (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4SvG56/) (twitter.com/_/status/398118859548676096)
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barnabywalters snarfed: if it’s any help, php-mf2 comes with some command-line utils for fetching and parsing mf2 which you could call from subprocess.call()
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snarfed yeah, true
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snarfed all tradeoffs, including me writing a full fledged parser…but thanks for the encouragement, much appreciated
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Loqi tantek: ChiefRA left you a message 1 hour, 52 minutes ago: snarfed came with a great idea of making a Pyton mf2 parser. Anyone tryed that before?
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snarfed tantek: feel free to disregard. consensus seems to be there aren't any python mf2 parsers yet. i may start one eventually, but no promises :P
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KevinMarks I started looking at it a while ago, but realised my python parsing techniques are very out of date
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KevinMarks I haven't used html5lib before
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@snarfed_org RT @BarnabyWalters: Anyone wanting to build a #microformats2 parser in #python? I’m up for helping out, drop into IRC and mention it (http:… (twitter.com/_/status/398152529889882112)
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tommorris snarfed: I'm starting one. I need an excuse to learn some Python toys I'm playing with.
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snarfed awesome!
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snarfed thanks! glad to hear it
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snarfed post the repo link when you have it, i'll happily follow along and contribute
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tommorris snarfed: sure. on train so have sporadic dodgy internet. mostly just using this as a way to get myself into writing python as I have to do some more at work
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snarfed ack, sounds good
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@JilaineParkes RT @HRreviewNA: Watch out for the post event round up of #SHRC13 on http://sprigghr.com/ and http://www.hreview.net (twitter.com/_/status/398163931262627841)
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tommorris is actually making some progress on a python parser
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KevinMarks Sounds good
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KevinMarks Using html5lib?
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tommorris KevinMarks: yep. and requests for http, nose for tests.
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tommorris mainly doing it because I wanted to familiarise myself with nose as I need to use it at work
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tommorris hey tantek
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tantek hey tommorris
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tommorris tantek: there was someone here earlier asking about python microformats2 parser. I've been hacking one together
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tantek very cool!
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tantek anything shareable yet?
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tommorris well, it parses the simplest test cases
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tommorris needs a lot of work though
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tommorris http://code.tommorris.org/mf2py
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tantek nice - hosting code on your own domain, how #indiewebcamp of you ;)
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tantek is there a version you push to github for collaboration?
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tantek and "parses the simplest test cases" is certainly good enough to add to the microforrmats.org parsers page
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tommorris tantek: it's bitbucket. you can just map a subdomain to it ;)
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tommorris but yeah, git / mercurial[with hg-git] makes the whole hosting it yourself thing becomes easier
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tommorris a self-hosted code repository would be useful though
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tommorris tantek: as for the parser, I'm hoping to work on it on the way to and from work
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tantek nice - good to hear.
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tantek was just thinking if you put it on github then snarfed and kevinmarks could contribute to it as well, maybe even barnabywalters (who has expressed some interest in the past)
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tommorris yeah, can do. was using it as a way to play with mercurial but I'm happy to pop it on github too
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snarfed glad to see it's up!
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snarfed i don't feel strongly where it's hosted, i'll send patches/PRs anywhere
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tommorris you can log into bitbucket with your github account, which is fairly hilarious oauthery.