#microformats 2015-03-15

2015-03-15 UTC
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aaronpk the svg logo linked from http://microformats.org/wiki/spread-microformats is gone
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aaronpk http://remiprevost.com/images/wallpapers/microformats/mf-vector.svg
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tantek perhaps document that on the page? but leave the link as a "dead" link with <nowiki> …</nowiki> markup on it
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tantek so there's a chance of say digging into the internet archive to find it
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aaronpk edited /spread-microformats (+65) (view diff)
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aaronpk it's okay to upload the logo to the wiki directly right?
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tantek hmm - depends on who created which version?
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centredentaire edited /hcard-examples-in-wild (+155) "/* new and uncategorized examples */" (view diff)
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@robbeaux A Quick Overview of Author hReview http://www.robbeaux.com/getresponse/?p=3504 (twitter.com/_/status/577010007524319233)
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@YoshiFan13 @WendysSketches IM LGCAUFGHIGN SO HCARD (twitter.com/_/status/577100932791607296)
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Mark87 In microformats 2, can I specify an item and one of its properties on the same element? I.e., <div class="h-entry e-content">Hello, world!</div>
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Mark87 And is that valid for all possible combinations of microformats/properties? Obviously some of them are implied, but for the ones that aren't....
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@wikipedia_new HCard http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/HCard?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/577170461169074177)
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tantek Mark87 no that's never been possible in any microformat
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tantek because it conflicts with embedding
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tantek let me find the FAQ
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Mark87 @tantek, so then is there a difference between <a class="h-card p-name u-url" href="...">Mark87</a> and <a class="h-card" href="...">Mark87</a>?
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tantek yes of course
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tantek the implied rules are there for cases like that where it doesn't make sense to add the class names explicitly, and you don't want to add more elements
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Mark87 right, but assuming there are no parent microformat objects, the result should be the same?
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Mark87 If my example was embedded for instance under an h-entry object, then it would show up as properties of that h-entry, but assuming there are no parent objects, there would be no difference? Or am I wrong
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tantek !tell kylewm I saw you mention earlier in the discussion about pronouns about different property names for different (human) languages - here's why we don't do that: http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Q:_Why_do_microformats_use_English_terms_for_property_names.3F
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek Mark87 - no because having the same syntax do two wildly different things makes it less predictable and thus harder to author
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tantek and debug etc.
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Mark87 so going back to my example of <div class="h-entry e-content">Hello, world!</div>, my parser should imply the p-name from that example for the h-entry, but ignore the e-content?
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tantek right
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tantek http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-faq#Can_you_mix_properties_and_the_root_class_name
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tantek because the e-content is not *inside* any root microformats class name
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Mark87 gotcha. Thanks!
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tantek what language are you writing your parser in?
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Mark87 php. I'm aware of the very excellent phpmf2 parser, but im interested in writing my own
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tantek excellent! then you'll be able to re-use at least the phpmf2 tests!
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Mark87 indeed! I already have them downloaded
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tantek edited /faq (+1717) "Can you mix properties and the root class name, update how to markup your blog a bit, noting h-feed" (view diff)
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tantek Mark87: I added an updated FAQ about this to the top level FAQ (since it has come up a couple of times in the past few months) http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Can_you_mix_properties_and_the_root_class_name
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tantek I hope that makes it more clear
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Mark87 Yes, I was thinking to myself that it was rather hidden under hCard
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tantek edited /hcard-faq (+91) "/* Can you mix properties and the root class name */ see also the general FAQ answer to the question" (view diff)
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tantek Mark87: yes at some point we need to update all the "hcard-faq" to "h-card-faq" and update all the code etc.
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tantek but until then, I'll add more general FAQs to the top level document to hopefully make them more findable
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tantek edited /hcard-faq (-25) "/* Can you mix properties and the root class name */ wikilink" (view diff)
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tantek edited /faq (-25) "/* Can you mix properties and the root class name */ wikilink" (view diff)
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