#microformats 2015-04-10

2015-04-10 UTC
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@Ndlela21 CA$HCARD uyamaz nje "@ColinJames_H: VIP @Mlacash for #TheRVVL18AprilPMB ?"" (twitter.com/_/status/586466153867956224)
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@Ndlela21 Ca$hCard > (twitter.com/_/status/586620046904012800)
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@ferry_rinaldi Tips Memperbaiki Missing hCard Author, Update, dan Entry-Title di Webmaster Tools | @scoopit http://www.scoop.it/t/user-manual-oracle-general-ledger/p/4040931538/2015/04/08/tips-memperbaiki-missing-hcard-author-update-dan-entry-title-di-webmaster-tools (twitter.com/_/status/586642364116168704)
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LindsayMac Hey guys.. I FINALLY got my site live and wanted to test my structured data. I put the url into google's testing tool and it does not see my h-event or anything inside of it. Is there a better tool that gives you errors and such?
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tantek LindsayMac - yes - try indiewebify.me
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LindsayMac tantek: i dont even understand what that site is
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tantek LindsayMac which part?
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tantek there are many validators on that site
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LindsayMac tantek: I only see h-card and h-entry
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tantek it checks a bunch of different things that any independent website needs
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LindsayMac tantek: but in general can't really tell what they're talking about to "sign in" to
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tantek you're testing your personal site right?
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LindsayMac does it syndicate your content?
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LindsayMac I'm testing a client's site
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tantek is it a personal site for a client?
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LindsayMac no
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LindsayMac its a publisher ..
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LindsayMac magazine publisher
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tantek then at least the h-entry testing tools should be very useful
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LindsayMac tantek: no. I need to test h-event
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tantek you can test general microformats structured data with http://pin13.net/
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LindsayMac It weird.. it seems like it's getting the feed instead of the actual page content
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tantek it's getting whatever you marked up with microformats
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LindsayMac tantek: well it seems like it's automatically following some rel to my feed instead of the content on the page
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tantek very unlikely
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tantek it will follow redirects but not any rels
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LindsayMac tantek: or whatever... its following something to the feed instead of reading on the page
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tantek if you have posts on your homepage and they're marked up with microformats it will find them
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LindsayMac tantek: are you being obtuse on purpose or is this just your personality?
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tantek is it possible your server is doing User Agent sniffing and redirecting?
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tantek can you provide the URL of the page and your feed?
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LindsayMac Thats what I'm looking into now
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LindsayMac sure http://greenwichaffair.com/events/johnny-a-band-james-montgomery-band/
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LindsayMac its my first stab at really trying to fully tag all of my content with microformats
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tantek I'm seeing an h-feed with a single h-event inside
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tantek is that not what you're seeing? http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgreenwichaffair.com%2Fevents%2Fjohnny-a-band-james-montgomery-band%2F
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LindsayMac tantek: no when I tried that same one it showed nothing but h-feed and nothing after
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LindsayMac tantek: so you're seeing a properly formatted page?
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LindsayMac (er... structure)
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tantek I'm seeing the h-event *inside* the h-feed
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tantek which is fine to have
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tantek and then after that just the rel links
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LindsayMac AH i got it now.
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LindsayMac not sure why it didnt work the first time
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LindsayMac So in your experience, does that formatting look usable?
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LindsayMac also, what is the h-feed ... I actually didnt put it there so assuming it's generated by my CMS
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tantek that's likely
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tantek it looks pretty good except the "end" datetime looks broken
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tantek because it seems to be at midnight *before* the start
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LindsayMac tantek: AHHh yes.
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tantek the adr markup could be improved to markup the street, city, state
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LindsayMac that actually makes sense why it happened
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tantek other than that - it looks like a well structured event!
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LindsayMac tantek: unfortunately I cant. the address is entered as one block in an input field
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LindsayMac Thanks!
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tantek right - that's why I presumed only "could be improved"
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tantek one-block event locations are pretty common
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LindsayMac yea.
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LindsayMac I thought about doing it where each line is entered but the client was like NOPE
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tantek for that case, you might as well leave out the "h-adr" markup
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LindsayMac ok.. I thought it would be beneficial to have SOMETHING in there.
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tantek because the "location" property of the event handles the address as just a single string
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tantek it *is* beneficial to have the one-block of address in the "location" like you have it
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LindsayMac tantek: so stage one fairfield, CT as "location" is enough?
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tantek I'm seeing "FTC Stage One\t\t\t\t\n\t\t\n\t\t70 Sanford St\r\nFairfield, CT" for the location which is fine
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tantek as it has venue name, address, city, state
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LindsayMac yes..
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tantek those \\ characters are all just whitespace explicitly escaped so you can see them in the validator output
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tantek hope that helps!
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LindsayMac yea. thanks a bunch.. that tester was MUCH more useful than googles'
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tantek I have to run now - but definitely feel free to come check back in #microformats again - there's usually others around too
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tantek that's great to hear!
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LindsayMac k thanks!
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tantek also always interested in more suggestions for improvement too!
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tantek pin13 is maintained by aaronpk
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tantek (who is also here in the channel)
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tantek have a good weekend!
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LindsayMac tantek: awesome.. thanks!
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