#microformats 2015-04-29

2015-04-29 UTC
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@alexandrevince Discover great free apps and get rewarded with gift hcards! http://welcome.freemyapps.com via @freemyapps (twitter.com/_/status/593250427744997376)
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@xrevelon RT @t: “HTML is my API” @aaronpk on @HackerNews’s HTML vs JSON, reliability, and using #microformats2 https://aaronparecki.com/articles/2015/04/26/1/html-is-my-api (ttk.me t4ah1) (twitter.com/_/status/593266730258010112)
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@openwebdaily WPD 459: DOM4 introduces Elements collection, adding microformats2 classes to sample markup http://webplatformdaily.org/releases/2015-04-29 (twitter.com/_/status/593323956842598400)
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@kevinmarks @LeaVerou @johnallsopp @brucel @rodneyrehm Eppur si muove https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py http://pin13.net/mf2/ http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing (twitter.com/_/status/593331374519517185)
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tommorris edited /microformats2-prefixes (+105) "/* reserving other prefixes */ updated to clarify that µf2 is not reserving single-letter-dash-prefixed class names outside of the scope of an h- object" (view diff)
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kevin marks edited /microformats2-prefixes (+149) "/* existing single letter class prefixes */ u- clash with Skeleton" (view diff)
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tommorris KevinMarks_: that's a shame. I like Skeleton.
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KevinMarks_ I also found some in twitter markup http://www.kevinmarks.com/tweetembed.html
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KevinMarks_ u-textTruncate, u-cf u-linkBlend
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KevinMarks_ maybe @benward's mf2 got restyled?
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barnabywalters Just released mf2/mf2 v0.2.10: https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4auAbf/ — thanks ben_thatmustbeme!
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Loqi barnabywalters: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 1 week, 2 days ago: re:php-mf2 I had added a test case for area tag at one point and i guess forgot to update the pull request with it. I fixed all the unit test issues that occured under linux, there is one more I am getting under mac, not sure it can be resolved.
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KevinMarks_ barnabywalters: have you had a chance to look at the rel improvements?
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barnabywalters KevinMarks_: nope, been glancing at logs but not actively working on any indieweb stuff for the past few months
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KevinMarks_ http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming
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barnabywalters thanks, checking it out now
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KevinMarks_ I added some extra info for urls that rels point to
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barnabywalters adding title to the alternate parsing makes total sense, good idea
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kevin marks edited /microformats2-parsing-brainstorming (+25) "/* attributes parsed */ now text not name" (view diff)
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barnabywalters I like the idea of making additional information available about other rel URLs too
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KevinMarks_ this was based on need from feedparser
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barnabywalters I am not a fan of the information duplication, but it’s probably not a big deal really
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KevinMarks_ i did try changing 'rels' first, but that was a breaking change, and amde it harder to use
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barnabywalters if I was designing an API for getting this information out of a page, organising rels by rel, and individally would both make sense as options
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KevinMarks_ also, with multiple xfn rels, this is less duplicative
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KevinMarks_ I did consider a special case for enclosure and xfn (like alternates) but this was more general
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tommorris barnabywalters: congrats on new release.
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barnabywalters tommorris: thanks, but all the credit goes to ben_thatmustbeme
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barnabywalters I just merged and cleaned up his pull request from last year, finally
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tommorris barnabywalters, KevinMarks_, ben_thatmustbeme and others: so, I'm thinking about adding iCalendar output to mf2py - that is, as well as JSON, you'd be able to get iCalendar (and maybe vCard too) out of mf2py
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KevinMarks_ I was going to look at vcard for the feedparser work
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tommorris specifically because it'd be useful to be able to turn a page full of 1..* h-events into an actual iCalendar file to import into iCal
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barnabywalters I just made some changes to the documentation, which I’d like to get rhiaro’s feedback on based on reading yesterdays logs
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tommorris (or whatever Apple are calling iCal this week since they've decided they don't like i-prefixing)
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barnabywalters but having lunch now :)
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KevinMarks_ though a parsed mf2 ->vcard thing rather than as part of the parsing phase
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KevinMarks_ becasue tests: https://github.com/kevinmarks/feedparser/tree/develop/feedparser/tests/microformats/hcard
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tommorris KevinMarks_: I was thinking more of just add .to_icalendar() to the parser and it'd give you back an object using the Python icalendar library
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tommorris and .to_vcard() to get back vCards from the h-cards.
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KevinMarks_ yep
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barnabywalters tommorris: that sounds like a great idea
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tommorris specifically because I'm writing some Django middleware that does content negotiation
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tommorris and if you ask for iCalendar, you should get iCalendar
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tommorris KevinMarks_: if you are in a mulling over and making suggestions mood, http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-mime-type could do with some input.
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KevinMarks_ then we can stick it on unmung.com and free ourselves form the scariness of h2vx
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tommorris all respect to brian but XSLT scares the living crap out of me
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KevinMarks_ me too
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KevinMarks_ there was mf1 to hcard code in feedparser before Kurt deleted it
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KevinMarks_ https://github.com/kevinmarks/feedparser/blob/develop/feedparser/feedparser.py#L2468
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KevinMarks_ so could just adapt that to work on the already parsed mf2 dict instead of reading html itself
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tommorris KevinMarks_: I don't know whether feedparser is ready for mf2py but it'd be a pretty big deal if mf2py started being used by it. :)
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KevinMarks_ well, it is in my fork
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KevinMarks_ though so far only for rel parsing
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KevinMarks_ I was going to do the vcards next
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KevinMarks_ then add in h-feed/h-entry support at the top level
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KevinMarks_ though the maintainer is busy refactoring the code in another direction
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KevinMarks_ so the chances of merging back are low
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KevinMarks_ look at the commit count here https://github.com/kurtmckee/feedparser/commit/a08dc59d22c2ed96bcc398a79c8a60d4058dc5b1
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tommorris modularising that looks sensible.
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KevinMarks_ meh
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KevinMarks_ having a single file to include is nice
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KevinMarks_ he first deleted a lot of features (and their tests)
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KevinMarks_ then refactored into multiple files
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KevinMarks_ see https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/feedparser-dev
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tommorris the single-page-app-iness of google groups makes me sad. :(
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@vcavalcante "WPD 459: DOM4 introduces Elements collection, adding microformats2 classes to sample markup" http://webplatformdaily.org/releases/2015-04-29 #frontend #feedly (twitter.com/_/status/593383783358984193)
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redrobix edited /hcard-examples-in-wild (+139) "/* new and uncategorized examples */" (view diff)
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redrobix edited /hcard-examples-in-wild (+11) "/* new and uncategorized examples */" (view diff)
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@Bastianoso Kompatibilität von Microformats: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2?utm_content=buffer9f679&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer#COMPATIBILITY (twitter.com/_/status/593460767871074304)
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@simevidas RT @openwebdaily: WPD 459: DOM4 introduces Elements collection, adding microformats2 classes to sample markup http://webplatformdaily.org/releases/2015-04-29 (twitter.com/_/status/593467120803041280)
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tantek what? really?
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tantek hahaha - that's a summary of two *separate* items in a list
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tantek funny
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tantek aaronpk, your fault ^^^ ;)
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@x2kmr @tos hCalendar (twitter.com/_/status/593495482137120769)
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tantek 729k tweets? looks suspicious
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tantek also @-replying a suspended account
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tantek !block x2kmr
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Loqi Got it! There are now 264 spammers blacklisted
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@kevinmarks @LeaVerou @tommorris clarified this: http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=microformats2-prefixes&diff=64932&oldid=48175&rcid=101308 - obviously you can't write a parser for as yet unspecified type prefixes (twitter.com/_/status/593362679269462016)
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