#microformats 2015-12-29

2015-12-29 UTC
omarhuanca joined the channel
#
omarhuanca Hello
#
KartikPrabhu hi omarhuanca
#
omarhuanca I need a implement a microformat into project. the form is a dictionary: sentence and meaning.
#
KartikPrabhu microformats does not have a general sentence-meaning syntax, is there a specific example you have?
#
omarhuanca this another application: https://quizlet.com/4835950/web-20-flash-cards/
#
KartikPrabhu this is the most I could find for such things: http://microformats.org/wiki/definition-examples
#
KartikPrabhu HTML5 already has a definition list <dl> for such cases
#
KartikPrabhu see: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/dl
#
omarhuanca ok, current I use the tag: dl, dt, dd for stucture dictionary.
#
omarhuanca my project manager say: if you can add microformat about this then I search how add web semantic this, but It's unnecessary?
#
KartikPrabhu what is the use of adding microformats that you want?
#
omarhuanca he want got content like example: http://microformats.org/code/hcard/creator.html
#
KartikPrabhu yeah there isn't a specific microformat for definition yet
#
KartikPrabhu but you should feel free to add your example use case to: http://microformats.org/wiki/definition-examples
fuzzyhorns joined the channel
#
omarhuanca the URL: http://oup.dataformat.com/doc/OUP_DTD_Dictionary.html is offline
#
KartikPrabhu yes, it is noted in the wiki page
#
KartikPrabhu and the replacement URL is dead too.
#
omarhuanca ok, what is your suggestion about this.
#
KartikPrabhu since there is no explicit microformat for this, I would use the HTML5 elements, but don't take my word for it
#
omarhuanca ok
tantek joined the channel
#
KartikPrabhu tantek: use case for micorformats for definitions, see preceding logs
#
tantek hey KartikPrabhu thanks will check
#
tantek yes for definitions, better to just use <dfn>
#
tantek and for pairs, dl / dt /dd
#
omarhuanca like this;<dfn> <dl> <dt></dt> <dd> </dd> <dl></dfn>
#
KartikPrabhu omarhuanca: no the <dfn> denotes the term being defined by the surrounding text. See: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/dfn and https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/dl
#
KartikPrabhu if you have a list of terms and definitions use dl/dt/dd and not dfn
omarhuanca joined the channel
#
@doteweb Thiết kế web Microformats, giáu ná»™i dung, am hiểu sản phẩm, hưởng lợi SEO. http://web.dote.vn/danh-muc/thiet-ke-web-microformat.aspx (twitter.com/_/status/681641068186566656)
#
omarhuanca ok, one more question my colleague.
#
omarhuanca I have a same functionality my project (https://www.luckyvoicekaraoke.com/sing?song=7728) respect this. exist a microformat for add.
#
omarhuanca again
#
tantek a microformat for what?
#
omarhuanca It's possible represent the translate with microformat
#
tantek you can link to translations with rel=alternate hreflang=otherlangcode
#
omarhuanca the karaoke is a list sentence hide, each setence show when the time equals
#
omarhuanca ok, colleague, you know a example about this
#
tantek ok I haven't heard or seen any arguments for why clearbox and prettyPhoto deserve their own rel values separate from lightbox
#
tantek edited /existing-rel-values () "(-1963) clearbox and prettyPhoto are redundant with existing lightbox. those libraries should be updated to support the existing value instead of introducing new values. we don't need library specific rels" (view diff)
#
KartikPrabhu omarhuanca: translations can be markedup as tantek suggested. but there is no microformat that links that text to a particular timestamp
#
tantek there are versions
#
omarhuanca ok, maybe a similiar.
#
omarhuanca can be represent the all translation into microformat
#
omarhuanca I have a list: <ul> <li> sentence1 </li> <li> sentence2</li> ........</ul>
#
omarhuanca ok, thanks for your time.
#
tantek omarhuanca - if you can provide a URL to your example it may be easier to figure out
#
omarhuanca ok
#
omarhuanca my project is: http://plataformaeducativalael.tk/content/viewContent?id_content=35&user_id_user=38&type_content_id_type_content=1&category_id_category=8
#
omarhuanca you need click two times on green button and wait end credits and show the sentence
#
omarhuanca I forget, click on player first
#
tantek can you provide a simpler static example?
#
tantek maybe at a test URL?
#
tantek microformats are more important for static content. if you are changing things a lot with javascript, then the markup might not matter as much.
#
omarhuanca ok, I understood
fuzzyhorns, netweb and KevinMarks joined the channel
#
@6326d490a8d3 hCalendar (twitter.com/_/status/681700700930191360)
KartikPrabhu, netweb, ivc, fuzzyhorns, tantek, Calli, KevinMarks_, elf-pavlik_ and KevinMarks joined the channel
#
@bertalanivan Tnx for the follow @geosouls. With @mappiamo we build fancy website with #GIS data. http://itinerari.galcapodileuca.it #Microformats #json_LD #webgis (twitter.com/_/status/681786745894080512)
KevinMarks, fuzzyhorns, TallTed, fnordle, Phae, KartikPrabhu, gRegorLove, tantek, netweb and gRegorLove_ joined the channel
#
kylewm Does h-review have a dt- property for when the thing was consumed/experienced?
#
kylewm trying to map h-review to Goodreads' "review[read_at]" proeprty
#
ben_thatmustbeme when the review was read? or when the reviewer read the thing they are reviewed?
#
ben_thatmustbeme i feel like that would be an h-event referenced within it
#
ben_thatmustbeme as you could do a review for a movie then include the h-event for when / where
#
kylewm ben_thatmustbeme: when the book (the thing being reviewed) was read
#
kylewm thinking about using this with micropub so an embedded h-event is ... difficult
#
ben_thatmustbeme ahh, then i think dt-* makes sense
#
ben_thatmustbeme although a book is typically read over a long span of time, not really one date
#
ben_thatmustbeme :P
#
ben_thatmustbeme but i don't see any existing MF for it
#
ben_thatmustbeme maybe just vendor prefix for now
#
kylewm thx
#
tantek kylewm: I think you're talking about when you experienced the thing that you're reviewing
#
tantek this might be one of the best use-cases yet for separate "read" "listened" posts
#
tantek or all the food posts
#
tantek there's the experiencing/doing of the thing, and then there's the review of the thing
#
tantek or rather the review of the specific experiencing/doing of the thing
#
tantek thus the user-model maps well to two posts
#
tantek where the latter is the h-review that links to the previous
fuzzyhorns, KevinMarks, tantek and KevinMarks_ joined the channel