#microformats 2016-04-22

2016-04-22 UTC
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kylewm hey tantek do you have a sec to look at this? https://github.com/tommorris/mf2py/issues/67
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kylewm there is an implied name rule that says img:only-child, and I dont' know if that includes text nodes too or only other tags
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tantek yes CSS selectors for *child are element based
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tantek counting text nodes in that would make such selectors almost useless
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tantek just understanding the element tree is hard enough
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tantek hmm - explicitly empty alt is always an interesting edge case
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kylewm yeah :/
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tantek and by that I mean, good catch! :)
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kylewm :)
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tantek wow there is != in attr selectors
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tantek s/there is/there is no/
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Loqi tantek meant to say: wow there is no != in attr selectors
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tantek oh wait. :not([alt=""])
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tantek kylewm did you already add a mf2 parser issue for this?
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kylewm wha? that's what i linked to initially
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tantek parsing *spec* issue sorry ;)
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tantek the parser itself seems to be following the spec
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tantek obv
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kylewm oh nope! i didn't know if the parser was following the spec
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kylewm php-mf2 does it differently http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsilo.pub%2Ftwitter.com%2Fkylewmahan
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tantek yup - good reason to make the parsing spec fix ASAP
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tantek my guess is that it's treating all empty attribute values as if they don't exist
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kylewm am adding the issue now
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tantek which I think we should do in the spec - what does microformatshiv do?
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tantek basically all the attr stuff like [alt] needs to be [alt]:not[alt=""]
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kylewm what is the difference between shiv and parser?
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aaronpk that's something we fixed in the php parser last week
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aaronpk in order to pass https://webmention.rocks/test/15
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kylewm (aside: damn everything glenn makes is pretty)
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kylewm the js parser gets the correct implied name
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tantek and by "correct" you mean "desired" right? ;)
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tantek is too much of a spec/standards-head, where "correct" means compliant with the spec.
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kylewm aw yeah sorry I even knew that was going to be ambiguous. js parser gives "@kylewmahan" as the name
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tantek the desired result :)
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tantek great - that's good enough reason to fix the spec - we already have parser interop on the desired behavior
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aaronpk edited /rel-canonical (+110) (view diff)
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kylewm edited /microformats2-parsing-issues (+580) "/* implied name when alt="" */ new issue" (view diff)
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kylewm edited /microformats2-parsing-issues (+206) "/* implied name when alt="" */ proposal" (view diff)
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tantek edited /microformats2-parsing-issues (+331) "/* implied name when alt="" */ +1 on proposal additional details to keep it consistent" (view diff)
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tantek !tell tommorris,barnabywalters,kevingmarks please take a look at http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-issues#implied_name_when_alt.3D.22.22 and add your opinion - I'd like to move quickly on this since we have impl interop on desire (rather than spec) behavior!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KartikPrabhu ehh what ^?
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tantek KartikPrabhu maybe like https://twitter.com/galoot/status/722865026038677504
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Loqi [@galoot] so-called 'Summer of Love' @ursustristis
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tantek dang that's one angry twitter account
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