#microformats 2016-11-29

2016-11-29 UTC
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@pillcro @zoblue @chriscoyier This is a good example of how open microformats and open data publishing can add further value for indexing engines. (twitter.com/_/status/803452906691293184)
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KartikPrabhu there are no microformats in the that example ^
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KevinMarks It's a coopted version of hproduct
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tantek So is that good or bad that they're marketing "open microformats" anyway?
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tantek pushing the idea, even if the example is empty?
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KartikPrabhu no i think people just call anything microformats, even microdata, RDFa, JSONLD
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KartikPrabhu doesns't matter if they are marketed as "microformats" if people don't know that microformats are something else
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tantek KartikPrabhu what do people do when they don't know? They search
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KartikPrabhu and they see that the microformats.org stuff is not what they saw on somebody on Twitter refering to something from Google.
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tantek how can they see that?
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tantek when they can't tell in the first place?
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KartikPrabhu because the code example linked looks different
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tantek what somebody on Twitter refering to something was
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tantek there's no code example in that tweet
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KartikPrabhu here is the original Tweet that that tweet was in reply to https://twitter.com/zoblue/status/803413633241903104
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Loqi [@zoblue] TIL about coding a product page so Google can show even more product info on search results:… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/803413633241903104
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tantek and you're assuming too much by thinking they'll dig deeper
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KartikPrabhu <shrug>
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tantek right, in that original tweet there's no code example that's my point
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tantek there's a photo of rich snippets
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tantek which also can be achieved with, microformats
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KartikPrabhu there is a link to code exmples
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tantek there is no text "code examples" in that tweet
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KartikPrabhu not in the Tweet itself!!!!!!!
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tantek right, people don't bother clicking links and reading, they mostly just retweet and reshare buzzwords / concepts
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KartikPrabhu anyway arguoing about what people might do is useless. Maybe only I click on the links in the reply to of the original tweet
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tantek no, you're a scientist, so you're more thorough
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tantek that's the exception
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tantek if webdevs were all scientists and actually testing their hypotheses of web development techniques, performance, etc. then we wouldn't have such js;dr problems
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tantek js;dr is the result of web dev cargo cult behavior, not scientific behavior
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@bluemorbo @zoblue @gav_taylor I used microformats at my last place. Google loved them :D (twitter.com/_/status/803498505566294016)
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@SejutaWisata Kategori:Articles with 'species' microformats https://twitter.com/SejutaWisata/status/803574042544525312/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/803574042544525312)
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@w3unpocodetodo Introduction to #Microformats For #Web Pages http://thenewcode.com/593/Introduction-to-Microformats-For-Web-Pages via @dudleystorey (twitter.com/_/status/803646376022151168)
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tantek wat
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tantek that's actually not a bad comparison table
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tantek except the article is a year+ old and uses only classic microformats
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@SejutaWisata Kategori:Articles with 'species' microformats https://twitter.com/SejutaWisata/status/803658350068199424/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/803658350068199424)
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@SejutaWisata Kategori:Articles with 'species' microformats https://twitter.com/SejutaWisata/status/803660998527815681/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/803660998527815681)
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