#microformats 2017-03-13

2017-03-13 UTC
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@horse_mans setting up a feed reader, remembering the heady days of 2006, microformats, digg, the ze frank show. everything seemed so promising. (twitter.com/_/status/841105945698676737)
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@BloggersBooks Author hReview Plugin Review and Usage https://www.bloggersbooks.com/author-hreview-plugin-review-and-usage/ #Blogging, #Bloggers (twitter.com/_/status/841308863345246210)
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gRegorLove tantek: Not sure if I should open a parsing issue, or if there should be an h-review specific github for issues, but adding p-summary to h-review came up when discussing backcompat: https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2017-03-06#t1488762928541000
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gRegorLove It's not really a parsing issue; the suggestion would just be to parse hReview summary as p-name p-summary.
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gRegorLove s/issue/bug/
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tantek gRegorLove: oh interesting, I'd want to see a specific use-case for why (e.g. what h-review consumers are looking for p-summary and doing what with it?)
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tantek otherwise it's a really bad pollution of an extra property with duplicate information
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tantek that frag link you gave is not working
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tantek no mention of p-summary on https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2017-03-06
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gRegorLove GMT timezone
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aaronpk agh i gotta fix that
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gRegorLove I've run into that with the log links
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aaronpk i'm not sure what the proper solution is
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gRegorLove Yeah, it's tricky
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aaronpk i could make the page contain posts from UTC, and then just display them in local time
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gRegorLove tantek: https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2017-03-05##summary+parses+as+p-name
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gRegorLove I think the only use-case now is that it maps to the hReview "summary" property. Not aware of a use-case for consumers currently.
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tantek that's not a use case then
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tantek plumbing mapping != use-case!
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tantek use case much actually involve a user-visible *use*
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gRegorLove Ok. Just figured I'd mention it before I forgot it
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gRegorLove I don't know if aaronpk might have a use-case
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tantek (seriously that is one of the most annoying things from the semweb "community" is how frequently members from said community express various plumbing transmogrifications as "use-cases")
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tantek I mean, it's a really bad dev-centric habit that devalues *actual* user needs
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tantek and actual use-cases
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tantek gRegorLove: it's ok, I've basically taken to dropping such things on the floor since they have zero use impact
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tantek zero user* impact
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tantek ah looks like there is an FAQ need
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tantek since aaronpk was confused about "i would have thought summary would be summary", not realizing the actual use of "summary" in hReview (or hCalendar for that matter)
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gRegorLove Understood. Should have put use-case in quotes.
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tantek ugh scare quotes
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@towo Microformats sind inzwischen auch tot, wa? (twitter.com/_/status/841430580680093697)
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