#microformats 2017-05-09

2017-05-09 UTC
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[shaners]
Hi loqi. You can tell me, but like, I already saw it.
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Loqi
[shaners]: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 2 hours, 56 minutes ago: yes, .card() returns the first card by default
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Loqi
[shaners]: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 2 hours, 54 minutes ago: it does return the entire list by calling .items() but the current code base uses .cards to get the array of all, so i want to keep as few changes as possible for users.
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sknebel
and here we go again...
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ready
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sona
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schmarty
wowowow so much new phone spam. tantek ^^
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[eddie]
Uh oh, they’re back ?
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[chrisaldrich], tantek, [andreasnebiker], gRegorLove, [jeremycherfas], KartikPrabhu and [shaners] joined the channel
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[shaners]
Is the mf wiki still running an old version of Media Wiki or did it get an update when indieweb.org did?
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aaronpk
still a super old mediawiki
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aaronpk
i don't host the mf wiki
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[shaners]
is it super hard to update bc of custom mods?
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aaronpk
any extensions and the skin likely won't work on a new mediawiki cause it's too old
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aaronpk
that was one of the reasons for reverting to the default skin on the indieweb wiki last year, to remove that requirement when upgrading the wiki (still not done yet, but close)
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[shaners]
who’s the wiki software shepherd in mf land?
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tantek
hey shaners. it was benward (note spelling) but he's been away for a while.
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tantek
so I've been doing just enough tweaks to keep things (e.g. Loqi notifications) running
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tantek
but by no means do I know enough to upgrade things and not break everything.
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[shaners]
I wonder if:
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[shaners]
2: some from indieweb land (other than apk) has interest in taking on the upgrade challenge
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[shaners]
A: benwArd has cycles to come do an upgrade, so that someone else can maintain it going forward
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[shaners]
2.1: if benward would mind if that person took lead on it
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[shaners]
mumble mumble bus score
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aaronpk
i highly recommend setting up a staging wiki as part of the upgrade. i have the IWC wiki running on an upgraded mediawiki on my laptop in order to work out the kinks.
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tantek
yeah totally get the bus score problem. hence I've been trying to document everything I do so at least I'm not keeping that state in my head
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tantek
on the wiki itself naturally
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tantek
i don't think benward would mind
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tantek
mediawiki running on your own laptop sounds like pretty good staging
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[shaners]
oh, i’m certainly not volunteering to go anywhere near mediawiki. i’m just saying if *one* wanted to…
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tantek
shaners, my docs in progress are here as I discover/learn more: http://microformats.org/wiki/wiki-customizations
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Loqi
MediaWiki customization
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gRegorLove
I've not installed MediaWiki, but I'm comfortable with PHP. I'd be willing to help out.
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tantek
shaners, yeah, I didn't take that as volunteering
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tantek
gRegorLove: great! that would make two of us at least that level :)
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gRegorLove
At least as a backup.
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tantek
part of the challenge is having both WordPress and Mediawiki installed
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tantek
and I think they use the same MySQL instance
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gRegorLove
Oh, WordPress?
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gRegorLove
backs away
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tantek
and WordPress handles the "root", while MediaWiki handles /wiki
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gRegorLove
I'm having a particularly frustrating day with WordPress for work today, heh
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[shaners]
what if it didn’t anymore?
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Loqi
hehe
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tantek
shaners, Loqi has become a bit more mischievous
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[shaners]
very skynet
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gRegorLove
such surveillance
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aaronpk
they're totally independent though, you can upgrade mediawiki without touching the wordpress half
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aaronpk
it makes it easier that the wiki is under /wiki already
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[shaners]
how about if all the wp blob was archives to static pages, served along side the wiki software (or from it), and new infrequent blob posts were done that way too?
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[shaners]
then mediawiki could run the whole site and not have to intertwangle with wp.
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aaronpk
the wiki is just sitting in a folder, it's not really mixed up
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[shaners]
how old is the wp install?
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tantek
shaners, it's a pretty customized install, lots of stuff weirdly turned-off and locked down to avoid so many expected future vulns
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aaronpk
version 3.4.2 apparently
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tantek
anyway it's definitely something that I'd want to brainstorm with whoever was going to volunteer to update it, rather than brainstorm in advance
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aaronpk
also i definitely recommend treating wordpress and mediawiki as independent projects. there's no reason to tie the upgrades of them together
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[shaners]
just seems like wp is sitting mostly unused for months/years at a time
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[shaners]
fair too, ap
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tantek
in the mean time, there's some queues of "wiki improvements" that we could at least incrementally process (gRegorLove ) if we're up to it
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Loqi
To Do
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Loqi
admin to-do
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[shaners]
ben_thatmustbeme how’s your 2.9 slog coming?
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ben_thatmustbeme
good, finding a bunch more that i need to do for deprecation warnings than i thought
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[shaners]
it’ll all be worth it in the end
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ben_thatmustbeme
mainly because i want to support the new function calls as well
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[shaners]
you’re doing great work for the community
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tantek
gRegorLove: want to pick something you find either interesting or important and feels doable for you from http://microformats.org/wiki/admin-to-do and I can work with you on it just to get your feet wet as it were?
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Loqi
admin to-do
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[shaners]
wait, huh? you’re adding support for the new function calls in 2.9?
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[shaners]
are they just aliases/wrappers to the old ones that they’re replacing?
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ben_thatmustbeme
deprecation warnings are not terribly useful if you aren't saying "start using these now"
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[shaners]
copy that
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[shaners]
very grool
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ben_thatmustbeme
as far as i could tell the old one has a .formats() function
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ben_thatmustbeme
but that can never have more than one item
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ben_thatmustbeme
which is... odd
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[shaners]
ben_thatmustbeme Here’s your Ruby syntax fun fact of the day:
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ben_thatmustbeme
.... wait for it ....
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[shaners]
When you need to have (or might have single AND double quotes) in a string and don’t want to deal with escaping the wrapping quotes you can use `%q` or `%Q`.
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[shaners]
You can think of lowercase as single quotes (no interpolation), uppercase as double quotes (with interpolation)
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[shaners]
and you use them with any matching pairs: `%q{}` `%q[]` `%q()` etc
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ben_thatmustbeme
huh, interesting
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ben_thatmustbeme
the escaping works well for me as syntax highlighting in vim is happy with it
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[shaners]
just curious, does your vim ruby mode do the right thing syntax highlighting thing for `%q()`?
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tantek
on it
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tantek
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aaronpk
woowowwwwww
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tantek
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tantek
all clear (for now)
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tantek
aaronpk, ben_thatmustbeme, [shaners]
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tantek
seriously
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Loqi
nice
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ben_thatmustbeme
[shaners]: well yes it would, its still just a string
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tantek
apologies if the spamfighting killed the discussion momentum here
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tantek
shaners++ for helping ben_thatmustbeme with the mf2 ruby parser stuff
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Loqi
shaners has 2 karma in this channel (61 overall)
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tantek
ben_thatmustbeme++ for persisting :)
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Loqi
ben_thatmustbeme has 9 karma in this channel (216 overall)
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tantek
ben_thatmustbeme: any particular test suite related issues that you'd like me to look at sooner rather than later?
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gRegorLove
tantek: I think this one is no longer an issue with wiki redirect, right? http://microformats.org/wiki/admin-to-do##Wiki+creates+duplicate+content
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Loqi
admin to-do
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gRegorLove
Oh, hm. It shows "Redirected from" but the URL isn't actually redirected.
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tantek
yeah that's the problem. indieweb.org may have the same problem AFAIK
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gRegorLove
looks like indieweb.org has rel=canonical
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gRegorLove
I think it's in newer MediaWiki
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aaronpk
i installed a plugin that sent 301 redirects at one point, but it caused other problems so i disabled it
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tantek
weird yeah. Wikipedia itself redirects
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aaronpk
maybe new mediawiki fixed whatever issue i was having
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gregorlove
edited /admin-to-do (+318) "/* web server */ current notes"
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gRegorLove
Yeah, I would expect that to be a core feature
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gregorlove
edited /admin-to-do (+133) "/* irc */ current notes"
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gRegorLove
tantek: Adding notes ^ Some of these can be moved to "completed" or "archived", not sure how you want to structure that.
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gRegorLove
I can work on http://microformats.org/wiki/admin-to-do##update+get-started. Is it basically just copying the blog post to the wiki and wiki-linking where appropriate?
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Loqi
admin to-do
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tantek
good q re: can be moved to "completed" or "archived", not sure how you want to structure that.
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tantek
I *think* what I've done in the past is just update the respective pieces of documentation, rather than actually keep a log of completed tasks
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tantek
and then link to those documentation updates in the wiki edit summary of the edit to the admin-to-do page
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tantek
so that the history of the admin-to-do page serves as the "log" as it were, and additional details / results can be found by going to the links in those edit summaries
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tantek
gRegorLove: does that make sense as a discoverable maintenance strategy?
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tantek
and yes, updating http://microformats.org/wiki/get-started would be a GREAT first task to start with. I think the intent there is to update it as you would a wiki page, more minimal, list-oriented, and "timeless"
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Loqi
Get Started
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tantek
as compared to a blog post, which is more prose-oriented, and perhaps tells more of a story with references to past and future
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gRegorLove
Kind of, but some of these aren't documentation updates or anything that would be on another page, e..g redirect www. to non-www.
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Loqi
MediaWiki customization
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gRegorLove
Makes sense
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gregorlove
edited /mediawiki-customization (+66) "/* Customizations */ redirect www.microformats.* to canonical microformats.org URLs."
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gregorlove
edited /admin-to-do (-158) "/* web server */ redirect www to non-www now documented at http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=mediawiki-customization&oldid=66341"
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ben_thatmustbeme
tantek: not really, i ended up making the corrections in my own copy of the tests repo so that i could run tests against it
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ben_thatmustbeme
and I can update later as needed
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ben_thatmustbeme
but i didn't make any changes to the local copy without recording a ticket for it at the same time
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ben_thatmustbeme
thats why there were so many
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tantek
gRegorLove++
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Loqi
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gRegorLove
tantek: Can I get permissions to create new pages? I can set up a copy of /get-started to work on updates under my user page that way.
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gRegorLove
There's still some weird throttle on me. "You do not have permission to create new pages on Microformats Wiki." when I try to edit my User page, even.
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tantek
gRegorLove: interesting, you should automatically get permission after enough edits
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tantek
I'd say just get started incrementally updating /get-started in place! even a paragraph / section at a time. totally fine
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tantek
in reviewing the logs - really odd about the tweet spam about the wiki spam!
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tantek
revealing a couple of bot accounts that look suprisingly real-like in photo/bio etc. @micsant1 and @krishdtech
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