#microformats 2017-07-10

2017-07-10 UTC
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@jonmoshier what's the best way to put contact info in an email? talking 'one-click->add to contacts' easy. vcard, rich snippets, microformats? (twitter.com/_/status/884486323381440514)
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snarfed hi all! i'm using mf2. i'm trying to get the alt text from an img.u-photo, but it seems like alt isn't guaranteed to make it into parsed mf2. it only shows up in the outer object's name property as a fallback, if there's no p-name. is that right?
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snarfed e.g. this HTML parses to name = ["alt"]:
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snarfed </article>
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snarfed <img class="u-photo" src="/photo.jpg" alt="alt" />
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snarfed <article class="h-entry">
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snarfed but this HTML parses to name = ["name"], and "alt" is missing entirely:
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snarfed <span class="p-name">name</span>
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snarfed <article class="h-entry">
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snarfed <img class="u-photo" src="/photo.jpg" alt="alt" />
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snarfed </article>
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aaronpk there's been some talk about pulling the alt attribute out specifically, but i think it's only brainstorming at the moment!
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aaronpk https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/2
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Loqi [aaronpk] #2 image alt text is lost during parsing
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snarfed (my use case is https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/756 )
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Loqi [miklb] #756 Support for alt text on images posted to Twitter
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snarfed thanks!
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aaronpk i think it's implemented in one or two of the parsers, possibly behind a feature flag
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snarfed ooh will look
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[shaners] i’m +1 on using alt attr in the fallback chain
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gRegorLove By fallback chain, do you mean the implied parsing rules for "name" property? http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing#parsing_for_implied_properties
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] microformats2 parsing specification
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gRegorLove That's a bit different than aaronpk's brainstorm (which I think is a good idea)
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KartikPrabhu how does a comsumer know if some property is supposed to be an image and hence look for the parsed "alt"?
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KartikPrabhu mf2 does not tell you where a particular property came from
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gRegorLove Certain properties like "photo" are usually a URL. Consumers can check if it's a object (similar to e-content) and if so use it's "value" or "alt" as needed
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gRegorLove If you're referring to the brainstorm
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[shaners] gRegorLove: Yeah. Sorry that was mismatched terminology. I think alt should be considered for the name parsing rules.
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[shaners] That said, I don’t have the cycles to implement it in the ruby parser. So, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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gRegorLove It is if the <img> is inside the p-name
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[shaners] oh great
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gRegorLove Let me double check that actually. *should* be afaik
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[shaners] I never knew that. ?
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gRegorLove Yeah, this works: https://php.microformats.io/?id=20170710222405876
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gRegorLove Probably makes more sense as an h-card there, but same rules apply
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[shaners] thx for clarifying, g.
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[shaners] sorry for the fly by opinionating.
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gRegorLove no worries!
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