#microformats 2017-09-06

2017-09-06 UTC
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bendyman edited /plant-examples (+215) (view diff)
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schmarty ^ appears to be spam. No mf2 on the linked pages.
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kevin marks edited /plant-examples (-215) "Undo revision 66542 by spammer [[Special:Contributions/Bendyman|Bendyman]] ([[User talk:Bendyman|Talk]])" (view diff)
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@Noith_CA hentry （マークアップ: http://microformats.org） 構造化データエラー が出たときの対処方法 http://column.noith.com/hentry-error/ (twitter.com/_/status/905438126251769858)
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tantek schmarty - the point about the various generic *-examples pages is to gather content publishing examples - in order to analyze *what* aspects of the content they are publishing, as background research
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schmarty tantek: thanks! my misunderstanding.
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tantek per http://microformats.org/wiki/process#Document_Current_Behavior
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Loqi The microformats process
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tantek so the question is - were the additions on topic or not?
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tantek and do they look "spammy" or not?
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tantek both judgment calls - but not an automatic - hey some top level domains were added - therefore must be spam
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tantek kevinmarks - did you analyze those pages and actually determine they were spam? or just assuming such from schmarty's comment about lack of microforamts?
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tantek schmarty: can you take another look with that in mind?
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tantek also we usually have a more contextually explanatory header at the top of the generic *-examples pages, e.g. like the intro paragraphs at the top of http://microformats.org/wiki/recipe-examples
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Loqi recipe-examples
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schmarty by that metric, these are probably okay. they do, in fact, show plants for sale.
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tantek probably worth adding a similar couple of paras like that to the top of http://microformats.org/wiki/plant-examples
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Loqi plant-examples
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schmarty the third link is missing a":" in "https://"
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tantek also ok to require links to actual plants rather than just aggregations and such
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tantek anyway, a bit of minor gardening (so to speak ;) ) if you're up for it
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[kevinmarks] ah, sorry - I just followed schmarty's lead
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schmarty edited /plant-examples (+208) "Undo revision 66543 by [[Special:Contributions/Kevin Marks|Kevin Marks]] ([[User talk:Kevin Marks|Talk]]) - i mislabeled these as spam in the IRC. correcting one of the URLs." (view diff)
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schmarty hmm, this is a frustrating post. https://css-tricks.com/working-with-schemas-wordpress/
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Loqi [Pascal Klau] Working with Schemas in WordPress
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KartikPrabhu schmarty: why is it frustating?
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[kevinmarks] frustrating as it ignores microformats?
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aaronpk i mean the whole post is about schema.org for SEO, so meh
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KartikPrabhu right, that was my reaction ^
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aaronpk i guess it's a little weird/incorrect to refer to it in plural "Schemas"
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[kevinmarks] schemata
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[kevinmarks] Schemings
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KartikPrabhu schemae
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KartikPrabhu english is weirder than any schema language so <shrug>
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aaronpk ha
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KartikPrabhu does = present continuous form of do OR plural form for a femal deer
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KartikPrabhu well not "continuous"
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aaronpk huh never noticed that. they've always seemed like totally different words to me.
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aaronpk i tend to not group words based on similar spelling
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KartikPrabhu i noticed it because a cafe said "does eat oats"
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KartikPrabhu after "mares eat oats"
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aaronpk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mairzy_Doats
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Loqi "Mairzy Doats"
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KartikPrabhu lol
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aaronpk well now that's stuck in my head
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: read a blog post on Schema and it'll go away ;)
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aaronpk ?
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KartikPrabhu it will be replaced by "itemscope; itemprop"
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tantek schmarty: one interesting thing about that post (if we try to look for anything remotely useful) is that they chose to use/show the microsyntax for opening hours
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tantek which is an unsolved problem as far as actual "open formats" go
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tantek or rather, unsolved in any kind of usable / memorable way (iCal RFC 2445 / 5445 etc. has a really cryptic syntax)
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tantek specifically: openingHours: "Mo,Tu,We,Th 09:00-12:00"
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tantek as an example in the post
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aaronpk foursquare seems to be doing a pretty good job of indicating open hours, i bet there's some good things to learn from there
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tantek aaronpk - depends on where they get the info
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tantek since Foursquare merges info sources, some from users, some from bizdev deals, others from random internet sources
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aaronpk oh i meant the presentation of it
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tantek if Foursquare has an actual UI for editing opening hours, that would be interesting
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aaronpk they do!
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[kevinmarks] they do, I've used it
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[kevinmarks] google local does too
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tantek edited /opening-hours-examples (-286) "OSM key openinghours is a *format* not a content publishing example" (view diff)
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tantek edited /opening-hours-formats (+189) "incorporate OSM key opening hours stuff from examples page" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk if you think the Foursquare example in particular is good - can you add it (maybe screenshot of the editing UI?) to http://microformats.org/wiki/opening-hours-examples ?
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Loqi opening-hours-examples
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aaronpk sure
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