#microformats 2018-02-15

2018-02-15 UTC
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@kevinmarks @stevefaulkner Meanwhile, rel=license still works straightforwardly http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-license and is part of html. https://www.w3.org/TR/2014/REC-html5-20141028/links.html#link-type-license (twitter.com/_/status/964051482420051968)
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@bloggermin Blogger SEO: Microformats http://blgs.co/EqdA3M https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWEkktOX4AUfaCT.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/964092010633285633)
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almorca edited /h-resume (+102) "/* Examples in the Wild - Add new example */" (view diff)
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tantek Zegnat, re: the dm_tab_ stuff in the rel-registry - can you track down when it was added by whom?
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tantek perhaps we can see if there is any other evidence of usage / implementation and if not, drop it
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tantek er, drop all the dm_tab_*
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aaronpk here's another one that might be able to be dropped http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=64544&oldid=64531
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Loqi existing rel values
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aaronpk although there seems to be a wordpress plugin that uses it? just for in-page interaction though https://www.google.com/search?q=m_PageScroll2id
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Zegnat Here is the one for the dm stuff: http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=65783&oldid=65781
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Loqi existing rel values
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Zegnat No idea who Kapoios is, so if someone knows
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tantek yes there's likely some potential clean-up to drop duplicate/redundant values and maybe even submit pull requests to any plugins etc that use them to use the actual rel values instead of making up new ones for no reason
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tantek Zegnat, no other edits from that user http://microformats.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Kapoios
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Loqi microformats community
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aaronpk weird, that page kapoios linked to doesn't even list those dm_* values
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tantek and the linked document doesn't mention the dm_ values at all
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Zegnat I think it is (clever) SEO spam.
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Zegnat That website that is linked feels very much like a zombie, if it ever was anything else
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tantek so I think that is reason enough to drop them - did you try web searching for those rel values in their entirety to see if they show up anywhere else?
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aaronpk that page does appear to be the only mention of rel=archived as well
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Zegnat I got only random stuff when searching for dm_tab_1_1. One of my Google results made me think it is actually an ID used by Facebook.
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aaronpk same
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aaronpk yeah I think this is some clever spam
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aaronpk rel=archived should be removed too
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tantek I see a few mentions of id="dm_tab_1_6" but not as a rel value
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Zegnat By chance also as IDs used by Facebook?
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tantek I see no evidence of FB
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tantek why is that relevant?
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aaronpk edited /existing-rel-values (-277) "update links to indieauth spec" (view diff)
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tantek this is interesting: https://github.com/wooorm/a-rel/blob/master/index.json
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Zegnat Would have been an indication that those weird IDs were just randomly sourced from Facebook, tantek. Stronger evidence of the strings being used in the non-rel context.
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tantek ok. enough to show lack of anything real behind those dm_ rel values, deleting them
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tantek edited /existing-rel-values () "(-1294) none of the dm_tab_1_* values seem used for rel anywhere else, some use as IDs but that's not rel. also linked "spec" does not define them" (view diff)
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tantek when did rel=archived get added?
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aaronpk http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=existing-rel-values&diff=65234&oldid=65209
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aaronpk they actually added a wiki changelog note
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Loqi existing rel values
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aaronpk but it goes to that sketchy site
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tantek and that's all they ever added: http://microformats.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Jribbens
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tantek not seeing any actual use in web search either
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tantek for rel=archived
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aaronpk same
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tantek edited /existing-rel-values (-248) "rm rel=archived, no web search evidence for any use of rel=archived, appears redundant with HTML5 rel=archives" (view diff)
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tantek good catches everyone
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