#microformats 2018-05-24

2018-05-24 UTC
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tantek edited /web-sign-in (+486) "add UI subsection for developers with plain domain and pathless domain canonicalization" (view diff)
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tantek [jgarber]: ^^^
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[jgarber] [tantek] Looking good!
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tantek long overdue
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tantek appreciate you discovering it and your patience
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[jgarber] It’s no trouble at all!
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[jgarber] Would it be worth documenting endpoint discovery priority? e.g. “try https:// first” or leave it up to the Web server/host?
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[jgarber] Best practice _should_ be to redirect `http://` up to `https://` and on to `example.com` or `www.example.com` (if the latter is canonical).
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[jgarber] I’m not sure how much the spec should account for someone allowing their website to be served at both `http://` and `https://` and/or `example.com` and `www.example.com`…
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tantek it should
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tantek though I think it's best to do what browsers do when you enter something like that in the address bar
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[jgarber] Heh, I imagine that currently varies by browser. 😭
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tantek jgarber, I bet for security reasons it has converged
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[jgarber] [tantek] Just tried hand-entering `sixtwothree.org` in a fresh instance of Chrome and the network log shows it hitting `http://` first. The Web server then redirects it on up to `https://`
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tantek yes that is likely because your domain is not in the HSTS pre-load list :)
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tantek e.g. try sixtwothree.dev and see what happens in the network log
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[jgarber] Oh, right, _that_.
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[jgarber] Same results with `letsencrypt.org`.
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[jgarber] [tantek] Interesting! `sixtwothree.dev` also tries `http://` first and then `https://`.
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tantek uh it's not supposed to, that's very weird
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[jgarber] ```
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[jgarber] Request URL: http://sixtwothree.dev/
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[jgarber] Request Method: GET
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[jgarber] Referrer Policy: no-referrer-when-downgrade
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[jgarber] Status Code: 307 Internal Redirect
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[jgarber] ```
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tantek because .dev is in the preload list and a fresh Chrome (or Firefox for that matter) should attempt to load it https
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tantek edited /faq (+103) "/* Wiki specific questions */ how do I pass a reCAPTCHA - do you feel ..." (view diff)
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tantek edited /faq (+101) "How do I find an answer to a question not mentioned here? ask in irc" (view diff)
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tantek edited /faq (+12) "/* Q. 'How do I find an answer to a question not mentioned here? */ Other" (view diff)
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tantek all FAQs should have an "Other" which points the person to the discussion forum / IRC
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@syedrasel1234 Hi. Your order will benefit a lot for me and my family, I am requesting #CustomColors #Custom #menu #Editor #Featured I #Full #Width #templates #Microformats #Threaded #comments #Translation @Readygov Photoshop & Illustrator any Work) Contact Us :https://goo.gl/VLuTPY (twitter.com/_/status/999549821156343808)
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@DogJennes Hi. Your order will benefit a lot for me and my family, I am requesting #CustomColors #Custom #menu #Editor #Featured I #Full #Width #templates #Microformats #Threaded #comments #Translation @Readygov Photoshop & Illustrator any Work) Contact Us :https://goo.gl/VLuTPY (twitter.com/_/status/999555402600669184)
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sknebel !snooze Your order will benefit a lot for me and my family,
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Loqi Okay, I snoozed "Your order will benefit a lot for me and my family," from all IndieWeb Twitter searches for 24 hours
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sknebel !tell tantek,jgarber: 307 Internal Redirect is how Chrome shows HSTS (which is why it says "Internal Redirect" instead of the actual name of "Temporary Redirect"), so you can still see that the page wanted to d a HTTP request that got upgraded
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgarber] @sknebel: Interesting! I didn’t know about the nature of that 307 redirect.
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Loqi [jgarber]: sknebel left you a message 4 hours, 18 minutes ago: 307 Internal Redirect is how Chrome shows HSTS (which is why it says "Internal Redirect" instead of the actual name of "Temporary Redirect"), so you can still see that the page wanted to d a HTTP request that got upgraded
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sknebel there is some X-something-or-other header too that tells you why it generated that
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm, you cannot create a new user on the microformats wiki
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ben_thatmustbeme just tested myself
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ben_thatmustbeme recaptcha v1 is shutdown message
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Zegnat You should be able to pass the reCAPTCHA.
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Loqi I agree
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ben_thatmustbeme its not working for me
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ben_thatmustbeme Login error: Incorrect or missing confirmation code.
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ben_thatmustbeme http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&action=submitlogin&type=signup&returnto=Special:UserLogin
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Loqi microformats community
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Zegnat I was able to pass the reCAPTCHA previously by using literally any input other than empty... Don’t know about any of the other parts of the site though
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ben_thatmustbeme try creating one now? i cannot
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ben_thatmustbeme On another note .... http://microformats.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&limit=500
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Loqi microformats community
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sknebel I just created an account
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sknebel recaptcha "kittens kittens"
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ben_thatmustbeme huh, that time it worked
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ben_thatmustbeme been looping through. best i can tell is you are required to enter something into the recaptcha, required to format the username with a cap, and required to enter a real name which also must start with a cap
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sknebel I didn't put a real name
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[tantek] Neither did I
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Loqi [tantek]: sknebel left you a message 7 hours, 30 minutes ago: 307 Internal Redirect is how Chrome shows HSTS (which is why it says "Internal Redirect" instead of the actual name of "Temporary Redirect"), so you can still see that the page wanted to d a HTTP request that got upgraded
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[tantek] Interesting
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[tantek] Well the account creation questions are pretty much handled by http://microformats.org/wiki/faq#Wiki_specific_questions AFAIK, excepting for some reason why Ben Roberts has to enter a real name but no one else does
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Loqi Microformats FAQ
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ben_thatmustbeme i have tried a number of different ways, same thing, it is making me use a real name or it won't go through
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[tantek] Has anyone else here had that problem?
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