#microformats 2018-08-08

2018-08-08 UTC
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@temnenko13 https://was.media/microformats/majakovskij-v-dnepre/ (twitter.com/_/status/1027128473880612865)
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@nagahitoyuki ↩️ #Microformats のupdatedをソースコードに追加して #SearchConsole でのエラーを回避できると思ったのに #構造化データテストツール では実際に更新日を表示しないと検出されない。SearchConsoleの構造化データも同じなのか。#デザイン が変えられなければもはやMicroformatsを止めるしかないだろう。 (twitter.com/_/status/1027139602581086208)
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@bugdie4k https://was.media/uk/microformats/majakovskij-u-dnipri/ (twitter.com/_/status/1027141106050457600)
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@nagahitoyuki ↩️ #SearchConsole の #構造化データ は表示されないhead内のマークアップでも検出するから構造化データテストツールとは違って大丈夫かも知れない。データを得るのに一週間くらい待たされてしまう。#Microformats のupdated：更新日を表示したいけど、デザインの #バランス が崩れるので、本当に厳しい。 (twitter.com/_/status/1027142442468880384)
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Zegnat sknebel, I see you recently referenced https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/9 from a PR to the Python parser. Could you comment with what Python is doing now? So we might get somewhere with finding a resolution to the issue?
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Loqi [sknebel] #9 "return the normalized absolute URL" for invalid URLs?
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@nagahitoyuki ↩️ それか、#Microdata は表示しなくても構わなくて #Microformats は表示しなくては駄目という可能性もある。もしもMicroformatsはソースコードだけではupdatedの #エラー を回避できないとすればなるべく #デザイン を変えて取り入れるようにしてみたい。使ってから不十分でも #SEO効果 の感触は良い。 (twitter.com/_/status/1027176844150226944)
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snarfed morning all! sknebel, mf2py head is looking good to me, no crashes. anything else you're hoping to get in before we cut a release?
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Zegnat snarfed, do you mind marking https://github.com/microformats/microformats2-parsing/issues/35 as closed (and perhaps opening a new shorter issue for any other specific change you still want)?
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Loqi [snarfed] #35 proposal: drop img src (and alt) from implied p-name
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snarfed sure, done
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Zegnat Thanks! Everyone can fix up the spec, like gRegorLove did, but not everyone can close issues
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snarfed is surprised he can
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snarfed ah, i guess i opened the issue
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sknebel snarfed: https://github.com/microformats/mf2py/pull/126 maybe, other than that go for it
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Loqi [sknebel] #126 remove dead code and unused imports
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snarfed sure!
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Zegnat Yep, snarfed, you opened it, is why I asked now that I saw you online ;)
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snarfed mf2py 1.1.2 release candidate is now on test.pypi, feel free to try! https://test.pypi.org/project/mf2py/1.1.2b0/
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snarfed pip install -i https://test.pypi.org/simple --extra-index-url https://pypi.org/simple mf2py==1.1.2b0
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ben_thatmustbeme okay, looking at the no implied name issue for microformats-ruby
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ben_thatmustbeme * if no explicit "<code>name</code>" property, and no other <code>p-*</code> or <code>e-*</code> properties, and no nested microformats,
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ben_thatmustbeme why only p- / e-
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Zegnat If you use a u- on an <a> tag, it could still be feasable that you want the full contents as an implied name.
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Zegnat But once you include something like e-content, you probably do not want an implied name that is the full content of e-content plus any surrounding textual elements (which was the major problem we were seeing in the wild)
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ben_thatmustbeme ugh, basically by the time i go to test for this, i've already thrown away what type it came from
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ben_thatmustbeme so i don't know if it was u-, p- etc
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Zegnat Yeah, the PHP parser keeps a separate array of seen prefixes specifically for these tests
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm, i have that change fixed, but it breaks a lot of my other tests
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ben_thatmustbeme updated to the latest test suite, still lots broken
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tantek__ ben_thatmustbeme: we've tried to be pretty good about making fairly constrained atomic edits to http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing with citing of specific issues being resolved etc.
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] microformats2 parsing specification
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[kevinmarks] Yeah, we were talking about the test suite yesterday.
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ben_thatmustbeme i think many of those changes may go back to changes i made to the test set in my copy and thus tickets i filed on github
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ben_thatmustbeme worst case, its a good exercise to see where the tests are different from what is expected
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tantek__ indeed
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ben_thatmustbeme already found one that i think is an error in the tests
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@cleverdevil ↩️ The service itself isn’t, but it’s built entirely on top of open standards like RSS, JSON Feed, Webmention, Microformats 2, Micropub, and other #IndieWeb tech. It’s the open web as it’s meant to be! (twitter.com/_/status/1027313770861711360)
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snarfed no bridgy or granary crashes with the current mf2py 1.1.2 release candidate, and i haven't heard any complaints, so i'm ready to make it the official release. anyone disagree?
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snarfed done! 1.1.2 is live on pypi, https://pypi.org/project/mf2py/ , and github, https://github.com/microformats/mf2py/releases
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snarfed enjoy!
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snarfed sknebel++ for all of his work in this release
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Loqi sknebel has 21 karma in this channel over the last year (80 in all channels)
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[kevinmarks] Splendid
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