#microformats 2018-11-03

2018-11-03 UTC
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@jgmac1106 Criticism of microformats as monoculture: https://chat.indieweb.org/microformats/2016-09-19#t1474304307448000 #el30 (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/23DaI) (twitter.com/_/status/1058684058861998080)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ It it isn't just microformats, though the metadata is common throughout the #IndieWeb but also a deep commitment to an HTML and human readable first web. (http://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/HLNA) (twitter.com/_/status/1058688496955768832)
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] huh? that doesn't make sense, in the chat archive the tweet text doesn't make them sound connected like you're asserting, the tweet you're linking to has been deleted
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] no one on any link you linked to said "microformats as monoculture" so let's not exaggerate / create a strawman / drama where there isn't any
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jgmac1106 it was deleted, then I won’t use it? I saw a link to Kris Schaeffer’s post
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jgmac1106 it was criticism from soneone who used to run digital pedagogy lab
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[tantek] what post?
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jgmac1106 i am but if he deleted his tweet I wouldn’t use it
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[jgmac1106] he had to have just delted it
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[tantek] yes the krisshaffer tweet appears to be deleted, and the summary of it in IRC chat doesn't seem to make any such connection so IDK
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[jgmac1106] I swore I read it...yeah I am gonna delete just to respect wishes of author more than anything
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[jgmac1106] I must have just read the summary in the logs and not the tweet
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[tantek] yes perhaps the tweet was unintended? exactly I think respecting author self-deletion wish is a good policy
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[jgmac1106] no it was a reply to kevinmarks telling me to use microformats and Kris coming back with the monoculture comment... but agree, thats my policy...i really should write up my deletion quotation policy
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[tantek] I don't understand the monoculture comment so I'm assuming it was made without understanding what monoculture means
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[tantek] especially in technology/projects
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[tantek] calling a standard a "monoculture" never makes any sense because a standard is *supposed* to be a one thing people agree one.
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[tantek] *on
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[jgmac1106] collecting history and artifacts for this: https://github.com/jgmac1106/bloggingme/blob/jj_edits/indiewebcasestudy.md anyone quoted will get a chance at right to refusal before publication
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[jgmac1106] trying to see if I can use my blog as a tool for qualitative analysis, highlighting html and microformats in the sociotechnical systems section...enjoy lunch with real people for a bit..I will be bere
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[kevinmarks] Looking at what is preserved of that conversation in my tweet archive, I was calling a remix model that relied on js a monoculture, and Kriss was pushing back on that, not calling microformats a monoculture
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[jgmac1106] yeah forgot Kris shut down his Twitter accounts, but glad history got recorded.
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cesalazar ..
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[tantek] kevinmarks, this is why I was pointing that out to [jgmac1106]
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[tonz] is it me / my browsers or is http://gmpg.org/xfn/ not displaying anything?
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@ton_zylstra Mapping Microformats To This Site: https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/11/mapping-microformats-to-this-site/ (twitter.com/_/status/1058745609228820480)
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[tonz] made what microformat should go where on my site visual on the wall w post-its, based on microformats wiki. So I can compare with what the theme I use, or plugins actually do where. https://www.zylstra.org/blog/2018/11/mapping-microformats-to-this-site/
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[jgmac1106] [tonz] be first theme with proper h-event...looks awesome....gonna use it in my pre-writing examples
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