#microformats 2018-12-04

2018-12-04 UTC
[schmarty], [jgmac1106], [davidmead], [cleverdevil], [eddie], [asuh], pino_p, jgmac1106, ichoquo0Aigh9ie, nitot and barpthewire joined the channel
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[jgmac1106] p-tagline should be a thing in an h-card...using p-note now
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] no, and that’s a bad reflex. Apparent structure is insufficient to invent markup.
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[tantek] Until you have a clear consuming code use-case, don’t worry about inventing markup.
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[jgmac1106] yeah discussed for awhile in chat...
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[tantek] But this is important because it’s literally a mistake that most new people who join the community repeat
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[jgmac1106] but its related to me for a few things, people needed to grab a tagline from my website for bios and programs and our conversations on discovery
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[jgmac1106] also note that all WordPress users encouraged to have a tagline which is about ~30% of web
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[tantek] There’s an excitement in inventing new things and that’s not only insufficient but the wrong instinct. We keep microformats micro by staying simple. By saying no to new impulses without clear ecosystem use-cases
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[tantek] Doesn’t matter how many people publish if no one has a consuming use-case
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[jgmac1106] yeah still going with p-note but having a "tagline" very common
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[tantek] You’re missing my point
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[tantek] A publishing pattern is insufficient to justify new markup
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[jgmac1106] the consuming case for me was around discovery but that is hypothetical so pointless
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[jgmac1106] I want to use an h-card directory to discover new people to follow who have like interes. p-note will work for this so I am okay
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[jgmac1106] you scroll back through chat were we decided it was a no good bad idea
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[jgmac1106] off to cub scout meeting now
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[tantek] Interests can be published (and discovered) with hashtags eg p-category
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[tantek] chat is not logged and this is an important general pushback against a common instinct so it needed to be on the record
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[jgmac1106] I didn't move it to chat... But always respect someone's reason for doing so. What we decide p-category for interest and tagline in p-note
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[jgmac1106] But I still want p-theme-music 😍
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kisik21 Hi! Is there a list of values that do not make sense to be handled as arrays in h-entries (for example, when posting via Micropub)? For example, name and content properties...
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KartikPrabhu in mf2 all values are arrays