#microformats 2019-03-18

2019-03-18 UTC
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@benlefromageur1 @AtyHans Twitter thinks I should follow you. I have a BA in Psychology, I know what AI is (or was in the 90s), and I'm good with atheism, poly or otherwise. I don't understand microformats or HTML5, but would quite like to. (twitter.com/_/status/1107454838504333312)
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@AtyHans ↩️ The origin of my surname, undoubtedly, was pejorative. It explains why there are so many Polak's that are not family. It's a very Jewish surname. About Microformats. You can use my tool and see the results. You can nest various related properties. You can add various Things … (twitter.com/_/status/1107516048323108866)
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@jgmac1106 Looking at website did not see any top level microformats like an h-entry for posts and h-feed for your feeds. Might be some slight naming confusion. microformats != RDFa, and microdata. I see you are on blogspot I made a microformats theme: … https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/03/18/looking-at-website-did-not-see-any (twitter.com/_/status/1107603423732613122)
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@iamjordanlittle Apache Jena looks really interesting. Getting to the benefits of semantic, relatable markup. The web itself can sorta start being treated as a relational database with RDF & OWL. Reminds me of HyperCard. Also RIP microformats. http://jena.apache.org/documentation/rdf/index.html (twitter.com/_/status/1107721231632158727)
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[tantek] Huh. It's been a while since we got an old school SemWeb troll. The linked documentation says nothing about microformats. So no reason to call it out negatively as such.
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[tantek] Worth starting a list of instances of SemWeb advocates unnecessarily trolling microformats?
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[tantek] (Certainly not the first time it's happened, usually ignorable)
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sknebel I'm not sure that was inteded as a "troll"
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[tantek] sknebel, how else would you interpret someone unnecessarily making an unqualified negative remark that is not substantiated by the cited link?
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[tantek] What alternative motivations would you use to explain the behavior?
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sknebel ah simple off-hand reference along the lines of "I also remembered microformats right now, those were a thing everyone was excited about some time ago"
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sknebel random tweets are the wrong medium to expect a standard of precision and things being "substantiated"
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sknebel and Loqi picking them out based on keywords gives them undue "weight", which IMHO causes people to pay too much attention to them
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sknebel "troll" is vastly different standard
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sknebel especially in a tweet by a random person that likely has no expectation of anyone who would be feeling "trolled" by their comment to even see it
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@calum_ryan ↩️ @sonniesedge @brucel the joys of getting Microformats to play nicely (https://calumryan.com/note/2503) (twitter.com/_/status/1107744483167350784)
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[tantek] sknebel++ appreciated - good way to draw out a more optimistic & hopeful assessment.
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Loqi sknebel has 19 karma in this channel over the last year (107 in all channels)
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[tantek] perhaps an encouraging reply, e.g. pointing out growing IndieWeb uses, could be effective
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