#microformats 2019-06-05

2019-06-05 UTC
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@yu04322 だそうです笑 #BoxFresh_yu04322 #BoxFresh http://boxfresh.site/questions/h2vx22o6-9g6y-9kyp-618u-swuz3tqaf30c (twitter.com/_/status/1136116822682378240)
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@ATOM03151 microformatsとAtomについて知らなかった情報多すぎて読んでる気にならない、、一旦飛ばして後でゆっくり調べよう。それにしても情報難しいけど良質なのは良く分かるから読み応えがある。 https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/4774142042/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_apa_i_qJ59Cb95GGJXR (twitter.com/_/status/1136218283206594562)
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[jgmac1106] Got an email from someone who wants to use webmention badges with XP points.. I am thinking just p-category or would you consider XP points a p-rating, X points out of Y possible?
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@YuyaIto3 https://developer.mozilla.org/ja/docs/Web/HTML/microformats ひどい翻訳だなこれ（なら翻訳してやれよって話だけど…） (twitter.com/_/status/1136267435290398722)
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] how’s your Japanese? ^^^
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jgmac1106 not good I couldn’t translate that, happy to ask for help in Telegram but the microformats MDN docs making the rounds
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jgmac1106 aaronpk spent some time in Japan, I will ask for help…or you can do it at TPAC
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aaronpk twitter translate did a pretty good job:
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aaronpk "It's a terrible translation. This is a story we're going to translate."
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aaronpk which confused me at first until i realized they linked to the japanese version of the MDN wiki page
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sknebel Wonder where that got picked up - just as a recent edit on mdn or did you send it to people?
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jgmac1106 I translated the tweet, I think they want help translating the new mf2 page into Japanese,
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[tantek] that would make sense!
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jgmac1106 I asked in the Mozilla Telegram channel
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@mfioretti_en Proposal: replace online #advertising with microformats for ads http://stop.zona-m.net/2018/05/proposal-replace-online-advertising-with-microformats-for-ads/ (twitter.com/_/status/1136336655609192448)
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jmac Hey friends - is this the right channel to bring MF2 parsing questions to, or is that indieweb-dev?
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gRegorLove Here's good jmac
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jmac OK. I'm also about to talk about Kicks Condor's HTML behind their back, so Kicks you're out there, 👋
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jmac My own parser is having some challenges with this page: https://www.kickscondor.com/comments/two-rss-experiments/
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gRegorLove (Kicks if you're out there, love your site!)
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jmac It does some stuff I haven't seen before (and which aren't in the MF2 test cases, that I know of) with piling many p- and h- attributes onto single elements, and I wanna do the right thing
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jmac In particular there's a <a class="h-cite p-name u-in-reply-to">...</a> which is a little wacky
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jmac My parser considers it a name property, which contains a h-cite item, and it throws out the u-in-reply-to (which is wrong on its face)
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gRegorLove Yeah, it's legit to have multiple properties like that, though there may be a question of "what's the intent for consumers"
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gRegorLove checks the parse results
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jmac The pin13.net parser is also weird... it does what my parser does, except also creates a u-in-reply-to property, and puts *another copy* of the while cite item into it?!
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jmac *whole
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gRegorLove Yeah, I would expect an `in-reply-to` object of type h-cite and a `name` object of type h-cite
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gRegorLove This step in the parsing algorithm http://microformats.org/wiki/mf2p##parse+a+child+element+for+microformats+(recurse)
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Loqi [Tantek Çelik] microformats2 parsing specification
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jmac Are you saying that the pin13.net output is correct here? (http://pin13.net/mf2-dev/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kickscondor.com%2Fcomments%2Ftwo-rss-experiments%2F)
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gRegorLove I think so, yes
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gRegorLove Just a moment
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gRegorLove That p-name should be inside the `u-in-reply-to h-cite` since it's the name (well, truncated) of your post, that he's citing
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gRegorLove So I think that's a publishing bug by Kicks, but the parse is correct to the spec