#microformats 2019-10-16

2019-10-16 UTC
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@aaronpk ↩️ Totally! But check out what we've done with Webmention and Microformats for the last few years: https://2019.indieweb.org/summit#indie-rsvps All these RSVPs are via Webmention Microformats. Click thru the permalinks to see the original posts! (twitter.com/_/status/1184283698667016193)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I think I will add another page (partial?) ..I write my pages in HTML so the NodeJS is new to me ..but make a place to display RSVPs like https://2019.indieweb.org/summit#indie-rsvps will send a PR Thursday or Friday with microformats for everything else. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1aRGLa) (twitter.com/_/status/1184288539388854272)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Playing some more not going to put h-event on header but instead on content wrapper, that way i get location...other idea just use ttop about box and add all correct microformats there: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/microformats#h-event (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/2dG7pw) (twitter.com/_/status/1184291551943561222)
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@mrchrisadams No joke, this is one idea I reckon the @microformats and @indiewebcamp crew would totally run with, as it fits their little niche, but would also be useful for loads of others too. Anyone who makes money selling event mgmt software would benefit from it (& could fund the work?) (twitter.com/_/status/1184514550214864897)
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[KevinMarks] Wasn't that lanyrd?
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@JamieTanna Happy #PronounsDay! My pronouns are he/him/his, and you can read them programmatically on my website (using #Microformats), as described in https://www.jvt.me/posts/2019/04/10/pronouns-microformats/ It's super important to make them visible so folks everywhere are more comfortable sharing their pronouns (twitter.com/_/status/1184545266361360386)
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@DavidWolfpaw For #PronounsDay I followed Jamie's lead and used spec microformats to mark pronouns on my site https://davidwolfpaw.com/. Thanks #IndieWeb! <span class="p-x-pronoun-nominative">he</span>/<span class="p-x-pronoun-oblique">him</span>/<span class="p-x-pronoun-possessive">his</span> (twitter.com/_/status/1184549285825789953)
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KartikPrabhu hmmm wasn't the *-x-* not preferred anymore?
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[fluffy] Is there any commonly-agreed spec for how to indicate multiple pronoun sets, ideally with an order of preference? Or is this all still wild blue yonder?
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[fluffy] I wouldn’t mind adding microformat markup to my h-card
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[fluffy] er, for pronouns I mean
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sknebel [fluffy]: this is all still very experimental I'd say (and I couldn't name a consuming application)
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sknebel Zegnat also proposed a less-split-up variation a while back: https://wiki.zegnat.net/microformats/pronoun
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sknebel which clearly allows multiple options (but the other one also doesn't say you can't have multiple)
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sknebel I'd expect use would primarily be for display, not much in the way of further automated processing - just displaying multiple groups if multiple are given, maybe assuming decreasing preference, wouldn't be a big step)
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[KevinMarks] There are examples at http://microformats.org/wiki/pronouns#Pronouns
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Loqi h-card Brainstorming
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gRegorLove I thought Loqi was the only consuming example for pronouns in response to !tell but I can't find examples in the logs now, just "I'll tell them..."
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aaronpk that was an aspirational thought :)
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aaronpk i never actually implemented that
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aaronpk probably about time tho
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gRegorLove I'm revisiting Zegnat's alternate method. I do like the simplicity of `u-pronoun`
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gRegorLove Especially as more people implement it, I'm worried it's mostly copy/paste since the `p-x-pronoun-nominative` version is first on the page
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gRegorLove (or p-pronoun)
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aaronpk u- is important there because it points to a URL that someone can read
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gRegorLove Yeah
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sknebel I'd actually like something that both gives a string to show (e.g. in a reply UI) and the link for more info. guess one could rope h-cite into action if one had to
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sknebel (as "labelled URL" type)
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sknebel aaronpk: I land at 17:25
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sknebel wops, wrong channel
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gRegorLove Good point. URL is good for humans to learn more, but consumers (Loqi) likely want only the pronoun string.
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aaronpk the language issue is really tricky
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gRegorLove Indeed
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sknebel the language parsing proposal also parsed lang for h-*, but not for p-* or u-*
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[KevinMarks] It parses hreflang for rel urls
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aaronpk that's not helpful
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@Lucid00 ↩️ Or use the "same_as" space for providing links to other places you can find them in that same info box. Could even fall back from JSON+LD to Facebook's Open Graph, Microformats, Schema, etc... (twitter.com/_/status/1184618682296733696)